The woman turned to her husband and said, "I think it's beautiful, but why does he have to be nude? Why can't he be covered like a good American statue?"
I'm of the prudish American belief that wishes most would leave something to the imagination when it comes to nudes. What you see is never as good as what you can imagine...
I don't know, Michelangelo's David clothed? I don't think it would have nearly the impact, it's quite an extraordinary sculpture of the human form, and there's plenty you can imagine about him. And, like the OP, I saw his Pietá when it was quite accessibly close, and again, it's quite a thing to see. Sometimes, in art, the human form is just that, and sometimes, usually when only half-clothed or when some prudish Victorian stuck a fig leaf where no fig leaf should ever be does it start to titillate IMNSHO. Thank goodness Michelangelo's David was never fig leafed... not sure what I would imagine if it had been.
But don't you think that certain parts of the body of David, like the hands are out of proportion?
Yes, so? Still a pretty good sculpture of the human form, and in fact,I"m not sure it would have worked so well if the hands were smaller.
I don't know, Michelangelo's David ...or when some prudish Victorian stuck a fig leaf where no fig leaf should ever be does it start to titillate IMNSHO. Thank goodness Michelangelo's David was never fig leafed... not sure what I would imagine if it had been.
from Kenneth Clark "The Nude". I suspect the same should be true for the creator of the image....no nude, however abstract, should fail to arouse in the spectator some vestige of erotic feeling, even though it be only the faintest shadow - and if it does not do so, it is bad art and false morals
Also, the perception of certain body parts being out of proportion is only when we look at the statue at eye level. If you view it as it was intended, up on a pedestal so that you're looking UP at it, the hands and the head appear proportionate because they're compensating for perspective. IF my art history serves me correctly, there was a time when a plaster fig leaf was applied to David, at least for a visit by Queen Victoria. But the whole thing is rather ridiculous to be worrying about covering up body parts out of prudishness rather than climate-dictated need.
I think it's a vain effort to try and separate the erotic from the artistic - and there's not a damned thing wrong with having your cake and eating it too when it comes to this. I think part of the impact of a statue like the David or the Pieta is the stark, confrontational physicality and humanity of the figure being nude. David was to inspire the Florentine republic as an heroic figure who was also human. How more human can you get than when naked? And certainly the erotic charge of this virile young man, a conqueror and giant-slayer without arms or armor, would inspire anyone. The nudity of the Pieta reminds us of the ultimate humanity of Jesus - none more corporeal and human than the naked body. Seeing the form of vigorous youth laid low doubles the tragedy - someone who you can picture in a sexual way now dead magnifies the sense of tragedy. I'm certain this was a thought in Michelangelo's mind as he was creating the statue - he was a master of the psychology of art as well as its practice. If he had Jesus in a funeral shroud, we'd look at it and say, "oh, how sad for the mother. Didn't he do a beautiful job rendering fabric in marble?" instead, we look at it and immediately feel a profound tragedy. Were Jesus draped, it would be just another statue at the Vatican to be noted as stop number 23 on the tour.
Only minds are dirty.
But what I want more than anything else at this point is to question SuzanneR, and force her to reveal to me, "just how did you get that proper accent on the 'a' of Pieta"? - David Lyga
Your question reminds me of the first time I visited Florence and saw the David. It was 1980, ... One couple stepped to the side, a few feet away from me. The woman turned to her husband and said, "I think it's beautiful, but why does he have to be nude? Why can't he be covered like a good American statue?"
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the comment.
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