Online discussions on film orientation can also get 'fun' before you realize that some photographers load their holders with the film facing Away from them, or towards the table, rather than loading the side facing toward them, or towards the ceiling...
Which is why I suggest anyone who is learning how to load film holders go watch youtube or a photo based tutorial, rather than trying to rely on some random person saying "The notch goes in the top right..." which can have multiple valid meanings.