For Sale Nikon 85mm f1.8 K

yaeldefaye · Oct 4, 2012

Nikon 85mm f1.8 K (6 blades) works on my Nikon D90 in M mode, $200 to USA or Canada (shipping and paypal included). Price taken from Ken Rockwell's website. Front and back cap not included. Metal hood included. Let me know if you need to have more pictures/information.

Pictures of lens:
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Information about lens:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/85mm-comparison.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/85mm-f18.htm

Pictures taken with lens:
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EASmithV · Oct 4, 2012

Is this lens cut for AI, or AI converted?

If so, and it's still around when I get my paycheck next week, expect a PM

yaeldefaye · Oct 5, 2012

It should be like a AI, it works fine on my D90 which cannot take Pre-AI.
If you need more pictures let me know.

It looks like the link from Ken's website except there is that last ring with the aperture number.

SamSpade1941 · Oct 5, 2012

Gents that lens is not AI that is clear from the photographs. There is no ADR scale and it does not have the cut outs. Also the serial number will tell you if it is AI or not. Not being AI does not mean it will not mount on your D90 , it means that you stand a chance of breaking your D90, I have seen people do it before. I have looked at these photos several times now and I do not see the AI relief cuts in the ring. This appears to be a late production NON AI lens probably 1975 or 1976

eurekaiv · Oct 5, 2012

Not that it matters much, but that doesn't appear to be AI converted to me. In the pic below you can see a non-ai on the left, AI on the right. Yours looks exactly like the non-ai.

yaeldefaye · Oct 5, 2012

Sorry about that then, my lens is like the non-ai from your picture Eurekaiv.

My lens is this one: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/preAI70/85mm.htm, so it's a pre-ai (or non-ai), and it should need a conversation to work great on my D90. It should be working fine with F2 and so on as described here: http://www.aiconversions.com/compatibilitytable.htm

E. von Hoegh · Oct 5, 2012

yaeldefaye said:
Sorry about that then, my lens is like the non-ai from your picture Eurekaiv.

Though the back mount has 5 screws in it and everything else that would suggest it's a AI. See this website: http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-153.html but I don't have a ridge on it described in #4 on that site.

When mounting it to my D90, the aperture ring is a bit harder (still very easy to turn) to turn cause it's closer to the camera. Off-camera that ring works fine.

What does it mean in terms of compatibility?

Basically, it won't properly couple with anything made later than about 1976 or so.

yaeldefaye · Oct 5, 2012

Thanks, I have read a few thinks online of people with micro 4/3rd using a nikon adapter and putting that lens on it without any problem. I know adapter are different than camera but it could be a great way to use that lens.

bblhed · Oct 5, 2012

E. von Hoegh said:
Basically, it won't properly couple with anything made later than about 1976 or so.

Not true, it will couple and meter with an FA, F4, modified F5 and an F6 as for coupling with a D90 I have my doubts that would happen without breaking the AI tab on the body.

SamSpade1941 · Oct 5, 2012

bblhed said:
Not true, it will couple and meter with an FA, F4, modified F5 and an F6 as for coupling with a D90 I have my doubts that would happen without breaking the AI tab on the body.

This is not correct you CANNOT use an NON AI lens on a NIKON FA , or most other Nikon Cameras made after 1977. The exceptions to that rule are the Nikon FM, FM2, FM2N, F3, and F4 Those cameras have a special button that allows the AI coupler to fold up out of the way. mounting NON AI lenses on cameras without this functionality risks breaking off the AI coupler on the camera. I have seen it done with both results, the coupler being broken off and the the lens mounting. In neither case does the lens couple and meter. There is nothing there for it to couple and meter to. Additionally on the cameras that have the ability to accommodate the NON AI lenses that I mentioned you have to use the stop down feature to meter the scene before shooting.

The reason NON AI lenses work on the D40 and D60 is because those DSLR cameras do not have the AF Motor and do not have the AI Coupler.

I own a Nikon FA and would not mount an unmodified NON AI lens on it, furthermore the Nikon FA owners manual specifically mentions by model certain NON AI lenses that should not be used even if they have been modified to AI or AI S configuration.

This is directly from the Nikon FA Manual concerning NON AI Lenses.

Do notattempt to mount older Nikkor lenses which have not been
Al-modified, as they might damage the camera. For further
information concerning lens modification, please contact
your local authorized Nlkon dealer
The following lenses cannot be used on the FA even if they
are modified to have the Al facility:
55mm f/1.2 (No. 184711-970110)
28mm f/3.5 (No. 625611-999999)

35mm U14 (No. 385001-400000)

yaeldefaye · Oct 5, 2012

I know it did work on my D90 and I mounted 3 times and it worked every time. I had to set mt D90 on the M mode but everything work OK as you can see in my pictures. I'm don't really want to put that lens back on my camera until I can further information, but I know I had no problem with it and that I was able to use other lens included a 50D and a few VR without any issue afterwards.

Robert Ley · Oct 6, 2012

I have a Nikon FM2n and an FE2 and non-Ai lenses CAN NOT be mounted to these two cameras. I don't know about the F3 or F4, but I believe that the FM, being sort of a transition camera between the two lens designs, provided for the Ai prong on the camera body to be folded down to accommodate the non-Ai lenses.

In any event, I had one of these lenses, probably a few years older and a .c lens (early multi-coating) and it was an excellent lens. Good luck with your sale and there enough people out there shooting older Nikon's, that there should be some interest in your lens.

E. von Hoegh · Oct 6, 2012

Robert Ley said:
I have a Nikon FM2n and an FE2 and non-Ai lenses CAN NOT be mounted to these two cameras. I don't know about the F3 or F4, but I believe that the FM, being sort of a transition camera between the two lens designs, provided for the Ai prong on the camera body to be folded down to accommodate the non-Ai lenses.

In any event, I had one of these lenses, probably a few years older and a .c lens (early multi-coating) and it was an excellent lens. Good luck with your sale and there enough people out there shooting older Nikon's, that there should be some interest in your lens.

I'd grab it to use on my F and Nikkormat, if the budget allowed. This lens has been on my want list...... along with a 28/2 non-Ai.

yaeldefaye · Oct 6, 2012

For sure it does mount on my D90, is what I'm doing "garanteed" by Nikon, probably not, but it does work.

E. van Hoegh, I do have a Nikon 28/2 AI for sale as well, I could make you a deal if you are interested in the 2, just PM me.

yaeldefaye · Oct 9, 2012

Since I was able to mount it to my D90, couldn't that lens be AI converted?

Anyway, it's still for sale! Can give a discount if you by my other lens as well: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

John_Nikon_F · Oct 11, 2012

Robert Ley said:
I have a Nikon FM2n and an FE2 and non-Ai lenses CAN NOT be mounted to these two cameras. I don't know about the F3 or F4, but I believe that the FM, being sort of a transition camera between the two lens designs, provided for the Ai prong on the camera body to be folded down to accommodate the non-Ai lenses.

In any event, I had one of these lenses, probably a few years older and a .c lens (early multi-coating) and it was an excellent lens. Good luck with your sale and there enough people out there shooting older Nikon's, that there should be some interest in your lens.

Correct. The bodies that a non-AI lens can be used on, other than non-AI bodies are:

F2A
F2AS
FE
FM
F3
and F4.

The F5 and F6 can be modified, provided parts are still in inventory @ the Nikon repair facilities, to have the metal coupling ring with flip-up tab. The lower end off-topic Nikon SLR's, like the D40/D40x, D60, D3000/3100/3200, and 5000/5100 can also use non-AI Nikkors.

The K-series non-AI Nikkors do have a slightly thinner aperture ring, so they're less likely to damage the minimum aperture sensing pin on a D90 than the earlier versions. It still can happen.

I've had three of these lenses, so far. All of them with the factory AI rings, so they could be used on my newer Nikon bodies. Have had two single coated H versions, and one K version that was well-worn.

Anyway, to the original poster, GLWS.

-J

kdemas · Oct 11, 2012

Nikon modifies the F5 and F6 to take them on request. Yes, I'm sure...I had an F6 done.

Kent

SamSpade1941 said:
This is not correct you CANNOT use an NON AI lens on a NIKON FA , or most other Nikon Cameras made after 1977. The exceptions to that rule are the Nikon FM, FM2, FM2N, F3, and F4 Those cameras have a special button that allows the AI coupler to fold up out of the way. mounting NON AI lenses on cameras without this functionality risks breaking off the AI coupler on the camera. I have seen it done with both results, the coupler being broken off and the the lens mounting. In neither case does the lens couple and meter. There is nothing there for it to couple and meter to. Additionally on the cameras that have the ability to accommodate the NON AI lenses that I mentioned you have to use the stop down feature to meter the scene before shooting.

The reason NON AI lenses work on the D40 and D60 is because those DSLR cameras do not have the AF Motor and do not have the AI Coupler.

I own a Nikon FA and would not mount an unmodified NON AI lens on it, furthermore the Nikon FA owners manual specifically mentions by model certain NON AI lenses that should not be used even if they have been modified to AI or AI S configuration.

This is directly from the Nikon FA Manual concerning NON AI Lenses.

Grif · Oct 11, 2012

Apologies if I missed a message with this info. From the Ken Rockwell site a link

http://www.aiconversions.com/

yaeldefaye · Oct 12, 2012

Make me an offer that's acceptable, and the lens is yours!

John E Earley · Oct 12, 2012

PM sent.

yaeldefaye · Oct 13, 2012

Reserved!

yaeldefaye · Oct 26, 2012

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