Re: https://www.nickcarverphotography.com/teaching/online_courses/manual_metering_film_photography/
Have you taken this $200 course? If so, what's your review?
Do you know any comparable, i.e. with email support?
Thank you.
I think it is over priced especially because you can learn it here for free or becoming a subscriber for $24US a year.
Thank you. I am a subscriber.
Re: https://www.nickcarverphotography.com/teaching/online_courses/manual_metering_film_photography/
Have you taken this $200 course? If so, what's your review?
Do you know any comparable, i.e. with email support?
I think it is over priced especially because you can learn it here for free or becoming a subscriber for $24US a year.
You can watch the first lesson on his YouTube channel to evaluate his delivery and teaching style. I happen to believe that Nick is a talented photographer and he pays a lot of attention to light and generally is meticulous about all things, something I value. His teaching style is superb IMO: informative and entertaining. $200 is just two dinners, totally worth it.
Teaching is a skill. Simply knowing is not enough. I wouldn't take anyone's lesson unless I value their work and saw them teach. Carver is an excellent photographer and a great explainer. 99% of people here do not share their work so I wouldn't know if they're worthy to be learning from.
Otherwise there's risk of "learning" from someone's parroting things they read somewhere else on the Internet, which can easily be utter nonsense like your post above. How can you say that the class is overpriced and a better version is available elsewhere, if you have not taken the class? You don't know what's covered. Why are you even replying? You literally have nothing to say on the subject, except to demonstrate the level of "teaching" that's available for free.
I didn't take his course so I can't comment on it directly. I do watch his general videos on photography. Nick is entertaining to watch and probably is easy to learn from.
Few thoughts.
The basics of metering aren't that complicated. They haven't changed since the invention of the light meter so finding a cheap, used book that explains them well is pretty easy.
There is no such thing as "The Precision Method"—same way "Expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights" isn't a universal law. Part of metering is subjective. Depends on what you want to show and how you want to show it. Same reason why some people rate certain 100 ISO film at 80 and others at 125. You learn it by testing and figuring out what you like.
Finally, his course is geared for spot meter metering, including a whole chapter on the Reveni, so if you don't have one, that's more $$$ to spend, and if you already have a spot meter, chance are you've gone out with it quite a few times and already figured out what to do with it and how.
I'm not knocking the guy down. His course is clearly geared towards beginners—he essentially says so in the end. But at 200$, seems to me a bit much.
Curious to know, with all the info and ressources available—much of it cheap or for free—on this subject, why did this course pique your interest?
I want consistency
What do you shoot? Negative (bw or color, same in present context) or reversal (slide) film? Only for reversal is exposure critical. For negative film you need enough exposure; 'nuf said.Hi. Thank you.
I was piqued because the film is very expensive now and I want consistency. I have taken some very nice photos with my view camera, I will post some.
$200 is relatively cheap, if you are the sort of person who finds it useful to learn things from those sorts of courses.
A lot of people who gravitate to websites like Photrio don't like that sort of learning as much as others might.
If you like learning through video courses, in order to get a meaningful "review" of this particular course you need to find other people who also like that mode of learning and have knowledge of this particular course and have skills and experience that allow them to give you a useful opinion of it.
IMHO, it is a lot harder to get this sort of meaningful feedback about a video based course than it is to get the same sort of meaningful feedback about something like a book, because it is much easier for people to share particular references in a book - think about the difference between discussions about the content on a particular page, vs the content at about 3:30 in the first "act" of the video.
I wish I can find it now to show it here.
Well these days $200 is only the price of about 11 rolls of 35mm Portra in the U.K. assuming you can find 11 rolls.. Imagine if anyone had said they'd found a course like this for 11 rolls of film only say 3-4 years ago on Photrio
I feel that words like delusional, phrases like "lost touch with reality" or "do your parents' know what you have just written?" might have been the mildest of the things said in reply.
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