New to me RB67. Questions.

jstraw · May 3, 2007

Pragmatist said:
Travis, there is a 150mm portrait C that may use something like this, I dont know. What I do know is that for the first roll I was very fastidious about readjusting this ring. Even when my mind and eye told me it was doing nothing. Better safe than sorry, yes? Since then I have paid little attention to it and it has made no difference.

Right now, I am looking to dress this baby up in some sexy clothes. Looked at some of the kid skin coverings available at www.cameraleather.com and am torn between the Indian Red and Verdigris. Of course, this would be offset by a black krinkle finish....

This site doesn't list the RB67 currently. Did it formerly?

Travis Nunn · May 3, 2007

jstraw said:
This site doesn't list the RB67 currently. Did it formerly?

No, it never listed the RB67. If you email the owner (can't remember his name) he can give you an estimate.

jstraw · May 3, 2007

Thanks. I just bought an RB67 Pro-S outfit from KEH.

Now I just need to find a negative carrier for my 45MXT....:rolleyes:

jstraw · May 4, 2007

Ok, I have some stupid newbie questions about medium format in general and RB67's specifically...

How many 6x7 or 6x4.5 exposures does one get from a roll of 120. I'm guessing 10 and 16, respectively. Is that correct?

When winding an RB67, does the camera automatically advance the right amount of film for each format, depending on which back is being used?

What is a double cable release for?

Thanks

Travis Nunn · May 4, 2007

6x7 - 10 Exposures for 120
6x4.5 - 15-16 Exposures for 120

The only backs I've owned are ProS backs and the film is advanced the correct amount when you wind it. I don't know about non ProS backs.

The double cable release is for when using MLU. One release cable goes to the body and one goes to the lens barrel. I don't use one. I just use a single cable release connected to the lens.

jstraw · May 4, 2007

t_nunn said:
6x7 - 10 Exposures for 120
6x4.5 - 15-16 Exposures for 120

The only backs I've owned are ProS backs and the film is advanced the correct amount when you wind it. I don't know about non ProS backs.

The double cable release is for when using MLU. One release cable goes to the body and one goes to the lens barrel. I don't use one. I just use a single cable release connected to the lens.

Thanks Travis.

When using a double release for MLU does this somehow swing the mirror up out of the way before the shutter is released so that the resulting mirror vibration has dissipated before the shutter fires?

Steve Smith · May 4, 2007

jstraw said:
Thanks Travis.

When using a double release for MLU does this somehow swing the mirror up out of the way before the shutter is released so that the resulting mirror vibration has dissipated before the shutter fires?

I don't have the double release but I think the first press moves the mirror then a second press (or it could be a further pressing) releases the shutter.

I use a simpler setup with just a normal cable release in the shutter. In this setup, the shutter release on the body locks the mirror up then the cable release trips the shutter.

Some lenses need to be manually switched over to MLU and some automatically changeover when the cable release is inserted.

It is also possible to use two separate cable releases if you really want to.

Steve.

Travis Nunn · May 4, 2007

jstraw said:
Thanks Travis.

When using a double release for MLU does this somehow swing the mirror up out of the way before the shutter is released so that the resulting mirror vibration has dissipated before the shutter fires?

I've never used one so I don't know. I'm with Steve, I just trip the shutter release on the body as normal and then use a normal (and much cheaper) cable connected to the lens barrel.

jstraw · May 4, 2007

Gotcha. Thanks guys.

k_jupiter · May 4, 2007

jstraw said:
Thanks. I just bought an RB67 Pro-S outfit from KEH.

Now I just need to find a negative carrier for my 45MXT....:rolleyes:

Sitting next to my 45MX is my 67S. Works for me. Now all I need is a 645 negative holder.

I bought a rb67 off the bay. It finally got here, looks fine, sounds fine. A couple of questions though...

It came with 2 645 film backs (ALWAYS ASK!). In the mean time, I bought a couple more 645 backs thinking it would be nice to have a mix of negative sizes. SO now I have 4 645 backs and no 67 backs. So...

1.) Anyone want to trade a 6x7 back for a 6x4.5 back? They are all in good shape.

2.) The backs fit my 2x3 Crown Graphic quite nicely. I suspect this means my Graphic22 (Singer with a lever) should fit the rb67. Is the film plane the same for the Graphics22 and the Mamiya 120 backs?

3.) Came with a grip. It seems the trigger mechanism isn't quite right. Like there is no way to put it on the camera without breaking something. Could this be for a C330 instead?

4.) Somewhere along the line I picked up a Universal Press 6x7 back. What adapter do I need to mount this back on my rb67?

5.) What size Polaroid do I need for a type 2 polaroid back for the rb67?

6.) What is the diff between a rb67 and a rb67 ProS?

More questions later....

tim in san jose

Travis Nunn · May 4, 2007

Regarding differences between the Pro and the ProS...from here: Dead Link Removed

Mamiya RB67Pro:
* The original RB67Pro, which lacks dark-slide and wind-on/double exposure interlocks, as well as lacking in-finder, horizontal frame indications (the red bars that automatically position on back revolve. There are indicators etched on the focus screen).

Mamiya RB67Pro-s:
* differs from the earlier model in that it has interlocks for darkslide, double exposure/wind-on, a focus-knob lock and the aforementioned 'red-bar', auto, in-finder frame indicators. A new Pro-S back series was introduced and is needed for full function of the D'slide/dbl. exposure interlock system.

Another website to check out:
http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/index-frameset.html?MamiyaRB67.html~mainFrame

jstraw · May 9, 2007

My RB67 kit arrived. It's a behemouth. I really can't feature myself doing much with it off the tripod. If I bail on it, the trade off is all that weight vs. the extra centimeter and the bellows for closeup work. I'm seriously thinking that this thing may not be for me.

With grip and prism, it's over eight pounds.

epatsellis · May 9, 2007

You do get used to it, I have a hunting fanny pack I sewed dividers into, I carry 3-4 lenses, 2 or 3 extra backs and hand hold the RB quite easily. One of these days I'll get a grip, but for the time being, it works just fine.

erie

Nick Zentena · May 9, 2007

I think of my RZ like a 4x5 SLR that just happens to take 6x7 instead of 4x5. I can't imagine using it hand held but I know others do.

Travis Nunn · May 9, 2007

jstraw said:
My RB67 kit arrived. It's a behemouth. I really can't feature myself doing much with it off the tripod. If I bail on it, the trade off is all that weight vs. the extra centimeter and the bellows for closeup work. I'm seriously thinking that this thing may not be for me.

With grip and prism, it's over eight pounds.

It's not for everyone. I don't mind the weight at all. Since you bought it from KEH, you have 14 days to decide whether it's for you or not. Run a few rolls through it before you decide, though.

Paul Sorensen · May 9, 2007

jstraw said:
My RB67 kit arrived. It's a behemouth. I really can't feature myself doing much with it off the tripod. If I bail on it, the trade off is all that weight vs. the extra centimeter and the bellows for closeup work. I'm seriously thinking that this thing may not be for me.

With grip and prism, it's over eight pounds.

Do you have a waistlevel finder? They are much lighter and I love using it. I also have a prism, but I only use it when I am shooting something at an angle not suited to the waistlevel. Since the back rotates you also don't get the awkward problem of trying to use a waistlevel finder with the camera on its side.

jstraw · May 9, 2007

Paul Sorensen said:
Do you have a waistlevel finder? They are much lighter and I love using it. I also have a prism, but I only use it when I am shooting something at an angle not suited to the waistlevel. Since the back rotates you also don't get the awkward problem of trying to use a waistlevel finder with the camera on its side.

I considered that but it's still going to weigh in at over six pounds...still too much, I think.

MattKing · May 10, 2007

One of my mentors used a RB67 to shoot weddings. He considered them to be portable, smaller choices, compared with the cameras he started out with.

One suggestion - get the Mamiya RB67/C330 grip (if you don't have one already).

And don't use a prism finder handheld, unless you have to. The rotating back makes the prism finder much less necessary.

Matt (a C330 user for almost 30 years)

roteague · May 10, 2007

jstraw said:
I considered that but it's still going to weigh in at over six pounds...still too much, I think.

Could you post some pictures, so we can see what the BGN looks like?

k_jupiter · May 10, 2007

I put the first roll through my rb tonight. Some 160C Fuji Film. I'll take it in tomorrow, results back probably by Monday. I used the 180mm C lens (Of course with the 645 backs) and had it on tripod. brilliant spectral sunset type light. I need to dig out my Graphics22 and place it on there.

Still no offers for trading a 67 back for one of my superfluous 645 backs.

Maybe the trade section?

So far, I like. It's heavy, but not compared with a 5x7 B&J. It isn't even all that much heavier than the C220 but it is more of a handful.

Worse case, I get helper springs for the back of my Explorer.

tim in san jose

juan · May 10, 2007

Compared to my 8x10 C-1, the RB67 is a lightweight, miniature camera. With a waist level finder and a good neck strap, the RB67 works very well hand held. The weight is carried by your shoulder and back muscles, not your hands and forearms. The prism finder is wonderful on a tripod, but awkward hand held.
juan

jstraw · May 10, 2007

roteague said:
Could you post some pictures, so we can see what the BGN looks like?

Sure, I have some other digipics to do tonight for some classified ads here on APUG so while I'm set up, I'll take some.

roteague · May 10, 2007

jstraw said:
Sure, I have some other digipics to do tonight for some classified ads here on APUG so while I'm set up, I'll take some.

That would be great. I'm considering an RZ67 outfit from them, but I'd like to see what condition I can expect.

jstraw · May 10, 2007

I'll take the ugliest pics I can...showing the flaws in all their glory.

jstraw · May 11, 2007

roteague said:
That would be great. I'm considering an RZ67 outfit from them, but I'd like to see what condition I can expect.

The pictures can be seen at http://www.mnewmanphoto.com/rb67/

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