I understand that there are only about 4 paper coating plants in the world that are currently functioning :-
Kodak has one in Rochester
Ilford has its Mobberley coating line
Fuji has one in Japan
Efke has a coating plant in Croatia (?)
I am not sure if the Agfa/Adox plant is back up and running yet
However, there is a world of difference between having your products coated for you by a third party and repackaging the same product under various brand labels.
The same is also true of Chemistry, it makes good commercial sense to concentrate Chemical Manufacture into a few viable plants and use standardised bottles and packaging but very importantly the contents remain unique to each brand.
Sadly we are now a niche market our volumes dont support the wide manufacturing base that it once did and it is these sorts of strategic alliances between the manufacturers that allow us to still enjoy the wide range of products that are still available
Lets hope our currently diverse material range stays viable for the manufacturers and allows then to deliver a similar diverse product range for many years to come
Martin
I understand that there are only about 4 paper coating plants in the world that are currently functioning :-
Kodak has one in Rochester
Ilford has its Mobberley coating line
Fuji has one in Japan
Efke has a coating plant in Croatia (?)
I am not sure if the Agfa/Adox plant is back up and running yet
Kodak only coats color paper, and I think it is done in Colorado.
Foma does its own paper coating
Slavich in Russia coats b/w paper and some film products
Agfa/Gevaert in Belgium coats RC paper, color & b/w for its aerial markets.
You are right.
Moreover, Gevaert coats also for MACO/ Rollei
and we forgot Filmotec: they coat their B/W cine films, and rollei pan 25, and rollei ortho 25.
My recent boxes of Kodak Supra Endura have 'Made in England' printed on the box; and a couple of old boxes of Fuji Crystal Archive have 'made in the Netherlands' on the box.
Tom.
I think the Fuji plant in the Netherlands is closed, but I am not sure.
Fuji still coats in Japan for the world market.
So if I understand things correctly :
- Ilford chems are made by Tetenal
- Tetenal papers are made by Ilford
Tetenal used to sell some rebranded Ilford paper, among others IIRC. Some of that stuff can still be found, but I don't think Ilford sells multigrade to any other. Same thing with films. Their films are no longer sold under any other label.
My recent boxes of Kodak Supra Endura have 'Made in England' printed on the box; and a couple of old boxes of Fuji Crystal Archive have 'made in the Netherlands' on the box.
Tom.
Paul, IIRC Harman does coat for others, but they won't sell their papers under another label. ADOX Fine Print Variotone is coated by Harman, but this product has nothing to do with any Ilford product. It surely doesn't make sense to build a $50M coating plant, just because you want to produce some paper. OTOH, Harman pays Tetenal (and whoever else) to produce their chemicals. There can be mutual benefit just by that.
Tetenal make their own photo-chemistry. AFAIK, Ilford chemistry is made by under license by Champion.The subject of the topic is pretty much in the title : if you look at a 5l. drum of Tetenal Superfix and a 5l. drum of Rapid Fixer they look very much the same...
My retailer tells me Ilford makes chems (and also papers) for Tetenal. I'd be inclined to think Tetenal makes Ilford's chems.
Who's right?
Tetenal make their own photo-chemistry. AFAIK, Ilford chemistry is made by under license by Champion.
Champion are multinational, so no surprises there.Yes - I know Simon said Champion were very helpful when Ilford went into Admin.
However, some Ilford chemicals say Made in USA......eg. Harman Warmtone
Some say Made in Spain - Ilford Multigrade Dev.
Some say Made in Germany - Ilfostop
Matt
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