New Lomography Orca 110 cartridge black & white film

nexus757 · May 16, 2012

Here's something interesting for the submini enthusiast: Dead Link Removed

phirehouse · May 16, 2012

Thank's for posting this.

M.A.Longmore · May 16, 2012

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Trying to think of a polite way to ask my nephew to
give back the complete Pentax 110 SLR System, that
I gave to him in 1995.

Hopefully he didn't lose it during The Divorce ...

Ron
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Laurent · May 16, 2012

Hummm... I just had a look at their site, and they say that there is no backing paper (so you have to count the frames yourself), does not block at the end of the cartridge and the last 4 frames might be fogged... At that price this seems a bit hard to accept (at least for me)

I always dreamed of a Pentax auto 110, but not sure it would justify getting one now !

nexus757 · May 16, 2012

I am accustomed already to slitting and reloading 110 cartridges with whatever film I want for my Pentax auto 100 and Minolta 110 Zoom--so I am also familiar with the issue of "keeping count" (i.e. no backing paper) as well as unloading in darkness. The one advantage this Lomo film appears to have is that it is properly sprocketed for all 110 film cameras, thus even lower end Pocket Instamatics that require the sprocket hole to cock the shutter can be used easily. If you are using one of these cameras, once the Lomo film runs out the shutter will not cock. So, in spite of it lacking the backing paper or a counter, you will know immediately when the film runs out. I also think if you load and remove the cartridge in very subdued light there should be little chance of fogging. But, of course, it would be far better if they did include the backing paper.

brofkand · May 16, 2012

I'm sure they'll get backing paper soon enough. I wonder if this is a partnership with ADOX, since ADOX has been saying for a few years now they're working on 110?

bsdunek · May 16, 2012

I ordered some just to try it. I do hope they get backing paper on it soon, though. The Adox site still says they're working on it. I presume this is from either China or the old eastern block countries. I'll know in a week or so.
Maybe I'll unload in the darkroom or changing bag to avoid flashing the last few frames.

nexus757 · May 16, 2012

I'm a bit spoiled at reloading my own 110 for under $2 a roll (slicing down bulk 35mm), but I'll probably order some too for fun. I just bought a Kodak Ektralite off ebay for 99 cents--seems like the perfect camera to try this out with.

Steve Roberts · May 17, 2012

As Laurent says, I'd expect something that was rather better for the price. This isn't much better than what I can do cutting down 35mm film (and I even load that with backing paper, though the frame numbers lose sync as without sprocket holes the amount of film advance in the Pentax Auto 110 is governed by the steadily increasing diameter of the take-up spool. However, the presence of sprocket holes in Lomo's product does allow its use in many other cameras. I'd prefer to buy, say, 5m of the uncut 110 film and worry about the backing paper myself.

Steve

kb3lms · May 17, 2012

...worry about the backing paper myself.

Where do you get the backing paper? Do you know of a source for new backing paper (or a substitute) or are you recycling paper from previous 110 carts or 120 rolls? I have been fooling with 126 cameras/cartridges and was trying to figure out what to do as I do not have any actual 126 backing paper.

-- Jason

wblynch · May 17, 2012

You can make some backing paper by cutting down some 120 discards. But you would need a pattern.

kb3lms · May 17, 2012

That's probably what I will do. I do have some lightweight black opaque construction paper that I think could also work as it seems about the same weight as the real backing paper but I'd have to find it in roll format.

As far as a pattern, I did just win an *Bay auction for an Instamatic 104 with 2 126 cartridges (Kodakcolor II) and paid less than 5 dollars. The film itself is likely worthless but the carts and backing paper will be useful. There are also lots of 110 cameras out there with old film included, too. Many of these camera outfits appear to be unused, NIB.

wblynch · May 18, 2012

I recently ran a 126 roll from 1983 and got pictures. Not great, but they did come out.

I put a used flash cube on top of my K-104 to force the slower shutter speed and shot in daylight. Then I over developed the film by 30 seconds. DIY C-41 is fun.

I now have 4 126 carts reloaded with fresh Portra 160nc, waiting to be used.

I still can find color 110 film at camera swaps but it is getting scarce. New 110 and 126 would be amazing.

Steve Roberts · May 18, 2012

kb3lms said:
Where do you get the backing paper? Do you know of a source for new backing paper (or a substitute) or are you recycling paper from previous 110 carts or 120 rolls? I have been fooling with 126 cameras/cartridges and was trying to figure out what to do as I do not have any actual 126 backing paper.

-- Jason

I've just used the backing paper from 110 carts. I have a few very outdated 110 films and cannibalised them, dumped the film and re-loaded with cut-down 35mm FP4 backed with the original paper. It lasts a long time, but if I needed to make any I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to slice it down from 120 in a similar way to slicing the film. I use a pair of Stanley blades in a jig with a fat spacer and shims for fine adjustment. A hinged lid clamps everything in place and two guides keep the film straight as it's drawn through.

The main thing is to have fun!

Best wishes,

Steve

cmo · May 19, 2012

The value of my Pentax auto 110 cameras and lenses just skyrocketed

Though I am not exactly a fan of that Lomography hipster stuff I ordered a few films...

Does someone know what sort of film is actually inside?

Hope that Adox finally starts the 110 cartridge machines, too.

Joe VanCleave · May 19, 2012

Well...you'd have to disassemble the film cartridges and re-wrap the film in the backing paper, then reassemble the cartridges properly (all in the dark), in order for it to be an effective light-trap. Probably more trouble than just unloading in the dark.

More to the point, does anyone have a source for C-41 processing of 110 film? I have a few rolls needing processing. Perhaps Dwayne's in Kansas City?

~Joe

phirehouse · May 19, 2012

Dwayne's processed mine

brianmquinn · May 21, 2012

There are several I have tried out. The Best C41 process and print for 110 is by Blue Moon Camera.

See here for labs that process 110 film.

http://photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00U2Re?start=0

cmo · May 21, 2012

cmo said:
Does someone know what sort of film is actually inside?

I sent them an email asking for dev times... that will shed some light on this film, hopefully not too much

nexus757 · May 21, 2012

Eh...whoever makes the film it would be hard to go too wrong with 7 min. at 68F in D-76. Glad I still have some stainless steel 110 reels.

cmo · May 22, 2012

Here are the times... what film could that be?

http://microsites.lomography.com/processing/

brianmquinn · May 23, 2012

Times match Orwo UN54 and it is made in 16m form.

https://store-e75ac.mybigcommerce.com/content/orwotechspecsun54.pdf

EASmithV · May 23, 2012

Now, if only they provided film for Minolta 16mm cameras...

cmo · May 24, 2012

What kind of film do they need? Other perforation?

bsdunek · May 26, 2012

Just received my Lomographic Orca 110 film. The box clearly says "Made in China", so that answers one of my questions. Still not sure what it is. As brianmquinn points out, the times are an exact copy of that from the Massive Developing Chart for Orwo UN54. Even in the same order. Could it be some Chinese factory buys Orwo film, perforates it for 110, and loads it into 110 cassettes?
Also interesting is that both the box and the sticker on the cassette proudly says "1st Production Run". What is not included is an expiration date. Not that it matters to me as I keep all my film stock in the freezer so I don't care what the date is.
I put a cassette in my Minolta Weathermatic 110, and will be shooting it in the coming days. It will be interesting to see the results.

New Lomography Orca 110 cartridge black & white film

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