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The full set is bargain-priced at $107,000. Their target market is the rental houses, who will amortize the exorbitant purchase price with exorbitant rental charges over several years.
The ad copy says it's the same optics as before, only the outer parts have changed. Everything seems absurdly expensive, what exactly are they shooting for? The old movies look great to me w/ the lenses they were using. I suspect that you would want these lenses because of the shift from film to digital?
You need to look at the prices of Cooke Optics lenses for a comparison. And then remember that some of their older lenses are regularly re-barrelled with the modern geared focus and aperture controls.
Stanley Kubrick selected his lenses for their unique look, tested them on stills cameras and then had them adapted for cine use.
There's been a swing back to film, but technologies in terms of controls have changed. The high cost reflects the relatively low production runs, it's not mass production. But then a complete set of these Leitz lenses is peanuts if used for say 5 Hollywood big budget films. There must also be a lot more mechanical wear and tear on lenses used for high-end movies than our still cameras ever experience.
Ian
Stanley Kubrick selected his lenses for their unique look, tested them on stills cameras and then had them adapted for cine use.
There's been a swing back to film, but technologies in terms of controls have changed. The high cost reflects the relatively low production runs, it's not mass production. But then a complete set of these Leitz lenses is peanuts if used for say 5 Hollywood big budget films. There must also be a lot more mechanical wear and tear on lenses used for high-end movies than our still cameras ever experience.
Ian
I would buy the set of seven lenses but I still do not have a $10 Leica. Camera donations will be accepted.
IF you buy the complete set, I'm sure members here will take pity on you, and collectively buy a Leica, and then sell it to you for $10
Ian
I thought all the cinematographers were shooting with those old bokeh lenses. Wasn’t it a vampire movie everyone was going bonkers about? Maybe that's so last year.
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This needs a new thread, coming soon, a member here has asked me to write a Ladybird Book of Lenses. Ladybird books are UK little books for young children but actually quite good on their topics.
So a simple question when is a Petzval not swirly, why is a Dallmeyer Rapid Acting Petzval so different. What is the Vintage lens look, a very experienced photographer visited me she wanted a lens with a Vintage look, I said which of the images on the wall are made with a Vintage lens, instantly it was a 1960s Yashinon, but the image used differential focus, she'd overlooked the images made with a very much older pre-WWII Dagor.
Ian
So a simple question when is a Petzval not swirly, why is a Dallmeyer Rapid Acting Petzval so different. What is the Vintage lens look, a very experienced photographer visited me she wanted a lens with a Vintage look, I said which of the images on the wall are made with a Vintage lens, instantly it was a 1960s Yashinon, but the image used differential focus, she'd overlooked the images made with a very much older pre-WWII Dagor.
Ian
Leitz Hugo lenses are named for engineer Hugo Wehrenfenning, whose work for Leica Camera (then Ernst Leitz GmbH, Wetzlar) included creating the iconic Leica M bayonet mount still in use today, along with many of the early M-series lenses.
The post is in English, so if you read it . . . . . . .
Ian
The post is in English, so if you read it . . . . . . .
Ian
Thanks Ian, I'll admit I skipped right to the price at the end of the article as directed by the op.
What a beautiful design they look superb, a bit above some of their more staid optics. Pity about the price though.
Actually these are the “bargain” line. The standard cinema line goes for about $40k per lens ($280,000 for a set
of 7), competitive with Zeiss Supreme cinema lenses. Of course the people that buy (or lease) these lenses- and you need the whole set!- are rental houses. Maybe a DP or production house will buy the bargain set for $107k, but these will rent mostly.
The standard rental fee was 1% of the purchase price, so $2800 a day/ 3 day week $8400 for the high end stuff. Maybe I’m off a little bit, but not that much. I don’t know digi stuff, but 10 or 15 years ago the Arri studio camera cost about a half a million dollars. Of course the cost of gear (or film for that matter) is small compared to the overall cost of a production. People are what cost the most!
of 7), competitive with Zeiss Supreme cinema lenses. Of course the people that buy (or lease) these lenses- and you need the whole set!- are rental houses. Maybe a DP or production house will buy the bargain set for $107k, but these will rent mostly.
The standard rental fee was 1% of the purchase price, so $2800 a day/ 3 day week $8400 for the high end stuff. Maybe I’m off a little bit, but not that much. I don’t know digi stuff, but 10 or 15 years ago the Arri studio camera cost about a half a million dollars. Of course the cost of gear (or film for that matter) is small compared to the overall cost of a production. People are what cost the most!
Calibrated and extremely durable mechanical precision (and resistance to the tender ministrations of time-starved camera assistants).
Designed to absorb being dropped 6ft...
Cine Lenses are quite a bit different from Still lenses. they have to be able to have the focus "Pulled" without any wobble. the aperture is calibrated in T stops that compensate forthe light absorption of the glass. AND the newer ones have chips that chat with the Camera.
see https://cookeoptics.com/
www.arri.com
www.fujifilm.com
for examples of this specialy
see https://cookeoptics.com/
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www.arri.com
Cine Lenses | Fujifilm [United States]
FUJINON cine lenses offered by Fujifilm have been used at Movie / CM / TV production sites around the world for their advanced scene-depicting capability.
www.fujifilm.com
for examples of this specialy
Gotta love the term "scene depicting Capability"
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