New Leica lenses

[Eric Rose]

If you think a new Summicron is expensive check this out.

https://ascmag.com/articles/leitz-announces-hugo-primes

 

[cramej]

Cine is just another word for "cinq" and "cinco". Anything with cine in the name automatically costs 5x what you'd pay for still photography equipment.

 

[Tel]

The full set is bargain-priced at $107,000. Their target market is the rental houses, who will amortize the exorbitant purchase price with exorbitant rental charges over several years.

 

[gone]

The ad copy says it's the same optics as before, only the outer parts have changed. Everything seems absurdly expensive, what exactly are they shooting for? The old movies look great to me w/ the lenses they were using. I suspect that you would want these lenses because of the shift from film to digital?

 

[Ian Grant]

You need to look at the prices of Cooke Optics lenses for a comparison. And then remember that some of their older lenses are regularly re-barrelled with the modern geared focus and aperture controls.

Stanley Kubrick selected his lenses for their unique look, tested them on stills cameras and then had them adapted for cine use.

The ad copy says it's the same optics as before, only the outer parts have changed. Everything seems absurdly expensive, what exactly are they shooting for? The old movies look great to me w/ the lenses they were using. I suspect that you would want these lenses because of the shift from film to digital?

There's been a swing back to film, but technologies in terms of controls have changed. The high cost reflects the relatively low production runs, it's not mass production. But then a complete set of these Leitz lenses is peanuts if used for say 5 Hollywood big budget films. There must also be a lot more mechanical wear and tear on lenses used for high-end movies than our still cameras ever experience.

Ian

 

[Sirius Glass]

I would buy the set of seven lenses but I still do not have a $10 Leica. Camera donations will be accepted.

 

[Ian Grant]

I would buy the set of seven lenses but I still do not have a $10 Leica. Camera donations will be accepted.

IF you buy the complete set, I'm sure members here will take pity on you, and collectively buy a Leica, and then sell it to you for $10

Ian

 

[faberryman]

I thought all the cinematographers were shooting with those old bokeh lenses. Wasn’t it a vampire movie everyone was going bonkers about? Maybe that's so last year.

 

[Ian Grant]

This needs a new thread, coming soon, a member here has asked me to write a Ladybird Book of Lenses. Ladybird books are UK little books for young children but actually quite good on their topics.

So a simple question when is a Petzval not swirly, why is a Dallmeyer Rapid Acting Petzval so different. What is the Vintage lens look, a very experienced photographer visited me she wanted a lens with a Vintage look, I said which of the images on the wall are made with a Vintage lens, instantly it was a 1960s Yashinon, but the image used differential focus, she'd overlooked the images made with a very much older pre-WWII Dagor.

Ian

 

[ic-racer]

Is HUGO an acronym? What does it mean? Google translator indicated HUGO means HUGO in English.
Anyway, looks like they are trying to play catch-up to Zeiss.

 

[Ian Grant]

Leitz Hugo lenses are named for engineer Hugo Wehrenfenning, whose work for Leica Camera (then Ernst Leitz GmbH, Wetzlar) included creating the iconic Leica M bayonet mount still in use today, along with many of the early M-series lenses.

The post is in English, so if you read it . . . . . . .

Ian

 

[ic-racer]

Good news for those that use film, you can got all these lenses for the price of just one of the new digital-camera-mount lenses.

 

[ic-racer]

[read the whole article dummy]

Ian

Thanks Ian, I'll admit I skipped right to the price at the end of the article as directed by the op.

 

[BMbikerider]

What a beautiful design they look superb, a bit above some of their more staid optics. Pity about the price though.

 

[btaylor]

Actually these are the “bargain” line. The standard cinema line goes for about $40k per lens ($280,000 for a set
of 7), competitive with Zeiss Supreme cinema lenses. Of course the people that buy (or lease) these lenses- and you need the whole set!- are rental houses. Maybe a DP or production house will buy the bargain set for $107k, but these will rent mostly.
The standard rental fee was 1% of the purchase price, so $2800 a day/ 3 day week $8400 for the high end stuff. Maybe I’m off a little bit, but not that much. I don’t know digi stuff, but 10 or 15 years ago the Arri studio camera cost about a half a million dollars. Of course the cost of gear (or film for that matter) is small compared to the overall cost of a production. People are what cost the most!

 

[ic-racer]

The good and bad. Bad in that a cinematographer is unlikely to afford these, but good in that he/she can use them with the production company paying.

 

[Larryc001]

To go with the lenses, one might want a RED body and brain. I first saw these used in the CNN series “Patagonia.”

RED.com

www.red.com

 

[Lachlan Young]

Everything seems absurdly expensive, what exactly are they shooting for?

Calibrated and extremely durable mechanical precision (and resistance to the tender ministrations of time-starved camera assistants).

You need to look at the prices of Cooke Optics lenses for a comparison

Designed to absorb being dropped 6ft...

 

[cmacd123]

Cine Lenses are quite a bit different from Still lenses. they have to be able to have the focus "Pulled" without any wobble. the aperture is calibrated in T stops that compensate forthe light absorption of the glass. AND the newer ones have chips that chat with the Camera.

see https://cookeoptics.com/

Lenses

www.arri.com

Cine Lenses | Fujifilm [United States]

FUJINON cine lenses offered by Fujifilm have been used at Movie / CM / TV production sites around the world for their advanced scene-depicting capability.

www.fujifilm.com

for examples of this specialy

 

[cmacd123]

Gotta love the term "scene depicting Capability"
...

 

[ic-racer]

A little thread derailment to show of some nice Regular-8 Cine lenses.

A wide angle Switar 5.5mm/f1.8 with its lenshood/series filter holder. Since I shoot B&W I'm mostly using ND filters rather than color correction.

 

[ic-racer]

A Switar 13mm 'normal lens.' Though in this format the lens is much longer than the diagonal.
Again, taking the same series size filters held in place by the lenshood.

 

[ic-racer]

Switar 36mm/1.8 'long' lens. It is called telephoto in literature, but I'm not sure of is a telephoto construction.
Shares the same size filters as the others.