New Kodak TMY 400

John Simmons · Dec 22, 2007

Well, I just got through a printing session using some of the new tmax 400 (TMY 400) film. This stuff is incredible. To my eyes it has the same tonal scale and grain as Fuji Across 100. Speaking of grain it is very pleasing and what you would normally expect from a traditional type film and the negs are very easy to print. I can't wait to get my hands on some 120.

I will post an image in the gallery when my prints are dry.

Regards,
John

Shawn Dougherty · Dec 22, 2007

Looking forward to seeing the results, John.

j4425 · Dec 22, 2007

John Simmons said:
Well, I just got through a printing session using some of the new tmax 400 (TMY 400) film. This stuff is incredible. To my eyes it has the same tonal scale and grain as Fuji Across 100. Speaking of grain it is very pleasing and what you would normally expect from a traditional type film and the negs are very easy to print. I can't wait to get my hands on some 120.

I will post an image in the gallery when my prints are dry.

Regards,
John

Can't wait to see them also... Thanks...

aldevo · Dec 22, 2007

j4425 said:
Can't wait to see them also... Thanks...

Ditto. Seems almost too good to be true..

donbga · Dec 22, 2007

John Simmons said:
Well, I just got through a printing session using some of the new tmax 400 (TMY 400) film. This stuff is incredible. To my eyes it has the same tonal scale and grain as Fuji Across 100. Speaking of grain it is very pleasing and what you would normally expect from a traditional type film and the negs are very easy to print. I can't wait to get my hands on some 120.

I will post an image in the gallery when my prints are dry.

Regards,
John

Where did you buy the film?

John Simmons · Dec 22, 2007

donbga said:
Where did you buy the film?

At my local camera store....Norman Camera in Grand Rapids, MI. It was very interesting as they had both the new version and the old in stock but one set of rolls said "worlds sharpest" on the box and the other boxes did not. Of course the salesperson had no idea what the differences are between the two.

Regards,
John

pauldc · Dec 23, 2007

Did you use your same times and technique as for the old version of TMY?

Looking forward to seeing the results too!

Thomas Bertilsson · Dec 23, 2007

The results are extremely encouraging, John. It's like having the best of both ISO400 and ISO100, both worlds in one single film. I have just settled on Tri-X as my staple film and won't change any time soon since I'm dialed in, but if I ever have to, this is definitely a likely contender!
Thank you for posting your results!
- Thomas

Snapshot · Dec 24, 2007

It appears that the new TMY is meeting the expectations of users. This is very promising indeed. In fact, it smacks a little of 'too good to be true' but I'm nearly certain it's not the case.

Amund · Dec 24, 2007

John Simmons said:
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I will post an image in the gallery when my prints are dry.

Regards,
John

I`m pretty sure your prints is dry now John

hadeer · Dec 24, 2007

There is a data sheet available for this new film on
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4043/f4043.pdf?id=0.2.26.14.17.14.18&lc=en
I haven't seen it in the shops in Europe yet. I would like to get my hands on this film very much.

Roger Pellegrini · Dec 24, 2007

What developer are you using?

ljsegil · Dec 27, 2007

Does anybody know if the new film will be available in 5x7 sheets?
LJS

donbga · Dec 27, 2007

ljsegil said:
Does anybody know if the new film will be available in 5x7 sheets?
LJS

I think this size will be a special order.

michael9793 · Dec 28, 2007

John Simmons said:
At my local camera store....Norman Camera in Grand Rapids, MI. It was very interesting as they had both the new version and the old in stock but one set of rolls said "worlds sharpest" on the box and the other boxes did not. Of course the salesperson had no idea what the differences are between the two.

Regards,
John

I'm sure the $$$$ has gone up. also wouldn't it be nice if someone in a store knew something about photography. it is their job you know. How would it look if I said oh I'm sorry i don't know what decay is, I'm just a dentist.

okto · Dec 28, 2007

michael9793 said:
I'm sure the $$$$ has gone up.

At my local shop it's the same price. I actually didn't know that was the stuff I bought until I read this thread.
I assumed the "Sharpest ISO400!" grocery sticker was like "Now more powerful!" on dish soap.

michael9793 · Dec 30, 2007

that is great! I develop with pyrocat-hd and can never see my image when developing by inspection, but when I use the jobo tank it is outstanding.

copake_ham · Dec 31, 2007

okto said:
At my local shop it's the same price. I actually didn't know that was the stuff I bought until I read this thread.
I assumed the "Sharpest ISO400!" grocery sticker was like "Now more powerful!" on dish soap.

It seems as if Kodak's packaging of the new TMY 400 has been as "casual" as when they came out with the new Portra films a year or so ago.

With the Portras, about the only difference in packaging is a red diagonal strip that indicates they have "enhanced scannability".

In fact, the film is a quantum leap in improved quality - and, yes, scans nicely too.

Sounds as if Kodak as similarly been low key about the new B/W film?

I sometimes have this image in my mind of a few "vestigial" film R&D folk up in Rochester having these great new ideas - and then there is that guy (Mr. P.) who says "no more research money for film!..."

donbga · Dec 31, 2007

copake_ham said:
I sometimes have this image in my mind of a few "vestigial" film R&D folk up in Rochester having these great new ideas - and then there is that guy (Mr. P.) who says "no more research money for film!..."

WHy don't you call him and ask him George. When you find out let us know.

copake_ham · Dec 31, 2007

donbga said:
WHy don't you call him and ask him George. When you find out let us know.

Why would I do that when I can just read the 10K?

John Shriver · Dec 31, 2007

From a marketing point of view, Kodak wants to hype the new film formulas. From a keeping their dealers happy point of view, they make the changes in the packaging subtle. There's always the problem with a new film that the dealer can wind up "stuck" with inventory of the old film, so they want to make it easy to sell of the old inventory.

In August I went to buy a sleeve of Portra 400NC at Calumet, and the first thing that came out of the fridge was the old stuff. I politely asked "do you have any that isn't so short-dated", and I got a sleeve of the new 400NC-2.

Dealers are really important to Kodak.

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