New Ilford film being Introduced

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Color film my friend.
Have a look at the Twitter "conversation" that is Ilford's Someone there said it must be colour and it was about the only response from Ilford that got an unequivocal "No"

Mods, better if we combine the two threads that started on this topic within a short time of each other

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They denied it on the twitter reply feed, at least referring to an user that said Ilfocolor. "That's a definite no"
Well, Ilfocolor is not the same as Ilfochrome... like Fujicolor is different from Fujichrome, or Kodacolor / Kodachrome for that matter. Leaves a door open...
 

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Imagine if they went with peel apart instant. It'll be anyhow interesting what they come up with as the range is quite well catered.
HIE?

Color would be a very very big leap, remember the time with Simon around here and the lenghtly discussions about Color film manufacture difficulties. Would be nice anyways
 

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Thanks macfred. You may have noticed that we have two threads running on this topic and it was, I think, your reference there that put me onto the Twitter conversation

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Not casting any doubt on you but it seems strange that it should issue such a teasing message with little substance in it and I can find nothing, not even a hint on Ilford's own site

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That is the trend in the industry...

Kodak Alaris has been announcing via Facebook only.
(Mirko from Adox promised to put all kind of announcement on their own site too.)
Seems to be creating the desired "buzz" on this site (Photrio).
And it is a lot cheaper than some other methods.
I'm going to guess that it is a true 1600 ISO B & W emulsion.
And I have absolutely know way of knowing how accurate that guess might be.
 

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I did - see post #2. Think the mods will bring the threads together.
I've reported it, but it doesn't appear that there are any mods currently on duty.
Maybe they are enjoying Canadian Thanksgiving - happy Thanksgiving all.
 
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Threads merged.
 

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I remember Simon Galley stating that Ilford would never introduce a new film that might cannibalize sales from their existing films. This was one of the arguments as to why they didn't create a true IR film as it would endanger SFX sales. He also pointed out the manufacturing difficulties of making a true IR film. On the other hand, Harmon has been under new management for a while.

An orthochromatic film or B&W reversal film would not cannibalize sales of their other films.
 

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Tantalising. My guess would be either a B&W reversal film or a "true" IR film.
 

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High transparent, colourless base. High Dmax.
 

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B&W slide film.
Well yes, but all of their films can be reversal processed and make BW slides. Some may be better suited than others, but you certainly get a positive image. The only improvement that IMHO could be done is a clearer film base that would give better highlights.
 

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clue is in the colours used in the tease. I'm betting a C-41 IR range b/w film, in 35, 120, and 4x5 formats. Purple is tied to their SFX film, red is to XP2, one box is b/w. soooo....
 

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Its not going to be a color film. My bets are on a slower Delta formula. I would totally go for that. Delta 25??! Yes please!
 

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Well yes, but all of their films can be reversal processed and make BW slides. Some may be better suited than others, but you certainly get a positive image

Yes, but they were not designed with that goal in mind. One would assume a film optimised from square one for that purpose would give superior results.
 

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25 iso represents a too small market niche.
The big game is in the 400 iso arena where I suspect Kodak is the leader with Tri-x and Tmax. I would bet on an improved version of Delta400 in order to gain market share against Kodak.

My 2 cents
 

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I think it will be a B&W film for Harry Potter fans

Ilford HP9 3/4
I like this - everyone, or just witches and wizards, no muggles?
If we are guessing wildly, how about a revamp of one of the Delta emulsions with much, much better reciprocity behavior (take that Fuji Acros)?
Or Pan F with more reliable "memory" .
 

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We should now recognise that we are not dealing with Simon Galley's Ilford any longer. It is a completely new company. I didn't think much of the Twitter conversation. It resembled a kind of Halloween" trick or treat" situation involving "that old guy called Ilford" whom the kids cannot resist visiting because they sense that he might have some thing to tell them but they are going to have to ask a lot of questions and each of the kids are going to leave satisfied because he hasn't put any of them down but there is still a mystery to be solved.

I don't think it looks like the Ilford I met in the factory tours of 2006 and 2008 where I would have been surprised had Ilford used this sort of method or a form of "spin" to announce something but I recognise that while 2006 -2008 seems like yesterday to me, it was really another era. It was the past - a foreign country where they do things differently.

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