Yes. Those two films, but especially PAN F+50 (despite its intemperate nature) are my present go-to for short-ish exposure pinhole work, but I do have three boxes of 120/ACROS in deep freeze storage for a project slated for mid-2020.
There was plenty of time to stock up. Acros is gone and never coming back, but there are equally wonderful high resolution films still offered from tmax to pan f to adox.
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If I remember correctly, Fuji Neopan400CN was discontinued, in 2018 I think.
Its excellent reciprocity characteristics for low-light and night-time shooting (which I do a lot of) are the biggest reason I have for mourning its passing, followed by its all-around balance. I seldom used filters with it during the day, usually preferring its look when unfiltered. Both simplified its use, and I very much liked the results.I doubt it, with so many fantastic fine grained b&w films what for? As long as they continue to produce transparencies I will be happy
I sold several rolls of Neopan 400CN in the UK this year - Exp.date is 2019.If I remember correctly, Fuji Neopan400CN was discontinued, in 2018 I think.
It appears that when it was made, Ilford made it. Now that it is gone( or has it?) is there any cause for concern given that Ilford XP2 Plus is still made. I suppose there might a concern if Neopan 400CN was different from XP2 Plus. Is it /was it?
pentaxuser
I see some real (if somewhat small) differences between those two histogramsThough Ilford always said they don't rebadge their film and that the Neopan 400CN was made to Fuji's specs one can find no source about those specs ...
For me as a long time user the results are looking identical. Here's a comparison between those two films with histograms - no differences as far as I can see.
https://figitalrevolution.com/2017/04/07/ilford-xp2-super-vs-fuji-neopan-400cn/
Though Ilford always said they don't rebadge their film and that the Neopan 400CN was made to Fuji's specs one can find no source about those specs ...
For me as a long time user the results are looking identical. Here's a comparison between those two films with histograms - no differences as far as I can see.
https://figitalrevolution.com/2017/04/07/ilford-xp2-super-vs-fuji-neopan-400cn/
Yes I understand your point about Acros and was not trying to say that Ilford had anything to do with the production of Acros. I was simply referring to Fuji's chromogenic film Neopan 400CN. My post was initially a question about how much concern we need to have about the discontinuation of Fuji 400CN when there is still Ilford XP2 Plus. macfred answered that by his post on comparison between histograms for Fuji 400CN and Ilford XP2 PlusIlford did not manufacture ACROS 100. Production was fully by Fujifilm, which has had B&W manufacturing ability for many years.
Considering the fact that the film manufacturers used to make slightly different emulsions for different geographic areas because of the different market preferences,...
a question about how much concern we need to have about the discontinuation of Fuji 400CN when there is still Ilford XP2
. Where did this come from or why? Who said or alluded to Acros being made by Ilford?Ilford did not manufacture ACROS 100. Production was fully by Fujifilm, which has had B&W manufacturing ability for many years.
suddenly and unexpected
Yes, absolutely.
I'm back to lurking, thanks for the reception.
I think the problem with all the "I heard or read somewhere that a new X film is about to be produced or a previous Y film is about to be re-started is that we have heard it so often. When there is no source of information then the the thread inevitably "drifts" and in terms of a conclusion or even meaningful direction becomes a "nothing thread" The real answer to such threads is (a) either it produces a host of like beliefs or (b) produces a credible source of information and without such it dies a death within a few posts. However Photrio and nature abhors a vacuum and we get this kind of thread.You can learn a lot on this site and even have pleasant conversations. Other times? You will get barked at.
Yeah, I hear you. I love film. As long as I can buy nice black and white film and paper, that's all I ask. We need young people.When I think Fujifilm I think Foreigner's song Cold as Ice
You're as cold as ice
You're willing to sacrifice our love
You never take advice
Someday you'll pay the price, I know.
But come on, we know we are the who will pay the price.
+1So looking back on the origins of this thread and the many and wayward routes it has subsequently taken are we safe to conclude that, without wishing to seem harsh, this has been a nothing thread similar to the kind of discussion that we all enjoyed in the pub/bar last night but today i.e. the next day, we are having difficulty remembering what brought it about and what it really was all about
pentaxuser
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