New coating machine is running !

Martin Aislabie

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Congratulations Mirko

I too am waiting for MCC to arrive back on the shelves.

Any idea when we will be in a position to buy some?

Martin
 

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Awesome! You guys make amazing films!
 

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You must be very excited. If the final product is like the sample I received, I am pretty excited myself. I can't wait to check it out and hopefully stock the fridge in my darkroom.....
 
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Any idea when we will be in a position to buy some?
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Martin,

in the last 1,5 years we have been doomed to sit and wait for this moment to come. Now we are mooving again and things will go pretty quick now as it has all been long prepared. Agfa granted MCC a dry down and harden period of 6 months. We might shorten this period on the first batch and comunicate that the paper may only be air dryed in the beginning.

I think it is very realistic now that there will be paper in the stores by August-September.

BUT: We will probably not be able to catch up with the demand for the first 6 months. During this time we have to drive up the production and the stock.

Therefore we plan to offer a limited range of formats from the first batches:
8x10", 11x14" and 20x24" in the US/UK and 24x30, 30x40, 50x60 in metric- Europe.

I would be interested in your comments on this idea.

Best regards,

Mirko
 

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Mirko,

This is good news!

As to the packaging, the most common damage I have seen with envelopes is at the corners. If you use two pieces of extra sturdy cardboard and they are over size, it will probably be just fine. That way the cardboard is damaged, not the paper itself.

Best regards,
Charlie Strack
 

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Mirko

I'm so happy to get this paper, any packaging will work.

In the long run. I'd like 100 sheet boxes of 8x10 and 50 sheet boxes of 11x14.

Congratulations.

Mike
 

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This is great news Mirko, I remember printing the test sheets and I can't wait for the final product to hit store shelves.
 

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I would like to see 20x24 in 50 sheet boxes. The box protects the sheets much better and 10 or 25 sheets is not economical. I would order larger sizes in rolls and as I air dry, I would be fine with a non aged emulsion as long as it didn't lift.

Do we know if this is a lith-able formula? (I would guess not, but worth the ask.) Do let us know pricing as soon as possible as well, and who will be retail sellers here in the US.
 

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ADOX Fotoimpex said:
...Agfa granted MCC a dry down and harden period of 6 months. We might shorten this period on the first batch and comunicate that the paper may only be air dryed in the beginning...
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What practical implications will this have for those printing on paper from the first batch? Does "air drying" (vs. what? "Time curing?") impact handling during exposure/processing or life expectancy of finished prints?

We've waited quite some time for this product. I'm inclined to wait a little longer if necessary to ensure your paper doesn't get an undeservedly bad reputation when it first reaches the market. Whatever degree of patience is required will be worthwhile. Thanks for your persistence.
 

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ADOX Fotoimpex said:
...your prints will be absolutely fine if you air dry them. In Europe the hot presses are very popular and the fresh paper will stick to the cloth. After 6 months it will be fully hardened and hot press safe.
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OK Mirko, we're working through the subtleties of English.

Apparently you're referring to heated dryers with cloth covers. In the US those are called "print dryers," not "presses." The term "presses" here describes what's used to mount dry prints onto mat boards.

Will prints made on the first batch of not-fully-hardened MCC, after completely air drying, be safe to then put in a heated press with mounting tissue for attachment to mat board?

Thanks for your patience with these questions.
 

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Mirko

I am so very much looking forward to the uninterruped printing of my portfolio "Five Blocks to Green Lake." I had spent well over 15 years printing in on MCC 111 and was very upset at its absence. In these forums I have sought replacements, though none has proved quite acceptable (Ilford Warmtone came closest). Looking forward to the imminent return of MMC.

Gary
 

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This is really great news, I also printed on some of the testsheets last summer with happy results I printed most of my pictures on it and ever since am looking for a replacement....
 

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Thanks for the good news Mirko. I would personally be most interested in 30x40 (12x16) size, and I'm obviously happy with your intent to get this size out with the first production. While I *much* prefer 50 sheet boxes, the 25 sheet envelopes will be fine too if their pricing is not objectionable.

The paper I currently use is Kentmere FPVC Baryt, which I quite like compared to Agfa's barite paper that I used to use. The Agfa paper was a bit thinner than is Kentmere. I understand that both the Agfa and the new Adox are 180 g/m2, against 240 g/m2 for Kentmere. I prefer the thicker paper, but of course there are other properties more important than weight.

I'm very curious about the new Adox, and I will definitely try some.

Good luck getting it all to work out Mirko!

Cheers, Sander.
 
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Sal,

thanks for clarifying this to me. Over here we call them hot presses.
The paper needs 6 months to fully harden acording to Agfa spec´s.
We could put it on the market after 2-3 months, if customers request this moove due to time pressure. I would expect that a dry sheet beeing reheated on a mounting press should not stick to the felt/cloth of this press because the emulsion does not fully swell again in this process it oly melts a bit on the surface.

Best regards,

Mirko
 

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Mirko,

I am under the impression that this thread doesn't get the attention it deserves because it is placed in the "'Product Availability" forum. I for one do not often look into that section and only saw this thread because it popped up under "recent forum discussions".

Maybe you could repost (or move) this thread to "B&W: Film, Paper and Chemistry"? I don't think it would be out of place there and many more people would see it.
It may also help to include the name of the paper in the thread's title.

I would guess that the 'new' paper is more highly anticipated than the activity of this thread so far suggests.

Best regards, Sander.
 
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