New Arista Premium 100 & 400 films

Paul Verizzo · Aug 22, 2008

Thanks for the testing, Steve!

It's hard to believe that it is only eight years ago that people were dazzled with my little Oly digital. Almost no one had seen a digital camera then.

Now, as you say, film is the oddball! Everyone has a digital camera, even if only in their phone. (!!!!!!)

cmacd123 · Aug 25, 2008

Freestyle's new USA made film.

Looking at the frestyle site they now have "arista Professionsl" film which is "made in USA".

The bigest maker in the US never used to be fond of private lable stuff. ANd I did not think that Ferania or FUji who AFAIK are the other folks who at least package film in the US, had a B&W stock.

Two types are listed 100 and 400 ASA

Anyone in LA who can buy a roll and try to guess the source from the packaging?

Jersey Vic · Aug 25, 2008

Great thread on this here: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

should answer all of your questions.
Be Well
Victor

David A. Goldfarb · Aug 25, 2008

Threads merged.

vdonovan · Aug 26, 2008

2F/2F said:
Medium format film is so cheap already that it is probably not worth anyone's (meaning Kodak's or Freestyle's) while.

Medium format is cheap? Huh? A roll of 120 Tri-X at Freestyle is $3.79, or about $.32 per shot. A roll of 36 of this new Arista Premium works out to about $.05 per shot. Maybe 120 is cheaper by the square inch, but that doesn't help me much.

I'd be surprised if Kodak re-branded Tri-X in 120. At the very least they would have to change two manufacturing processes-the film and the backing-and it would probably not have the positive effect on overall film usage that making cheap 35mm available to students and enthusiasts will have.

Still, we can dream...

Photo-gear · Apr 5, 2013

Does someone know the time development of Arista Premium 400? On the massive chart, most of the information is related to the old version.

Paul Verizzo · Apr 5, 2013

Didn't know there are new and old versions. After all, it just came out about four years ago. Pretty short time to reformulate, especially since it's been a given that these films are Plus and Tri-X.

Regardless of conjecture, here's the chart directly from Freestyle.

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/arista_premium.php?pg=2

jglass · Apr 5, 2013

That chart shows same time for AP 400 as Tri-X in D76 1:1. AP100 is same time as Plus-X in D76 1:1.

viridari · Apr 5, 2013

You're responding to a ~5 year old thread. This isn't new; it's still de-branded Tri-X. Plug in Tri-X into the Massive Dev Chart and prosper.

Photo-gear · Apr 5, 2013

viridari said:
You're responding to a ~5 year old thread. This isn't new; it's still de-branded Tri-X. Plug in Tri-X into the Massive Dev Chart and prosper.

The same note can be seen on the Mass Chart with the Tri-X film.
Here's the note:

Note [29] Data is taken from a previous version of this film. Starting point time remains the same.

http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?Film=Tri-X+400&Developer=HC-110&mdc=Search

A lot of the mass. chart is intoxicated with this kind of note.

Photo-gear · Apr 5, 2013

I will rely to this chart, of course.
Thank you !

Paul Verizzo said:
Didn't know there are new and old versions. After all, it just came out about four years ago. Pretty short time to reformulate, especially since it's been a given that these films are Plus and Tri-X.

Regardless of conjecture, here's the chart directly from Freestyle.

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/arista_premium.php?pg=2

cmacd123 · Apr 6, 2013

Paul Verizzo said:
Didn't know there are new and old versions. After all, it just came out about four years ago.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/arista_premium.php?pg=2

There are "old" and "new" times for TX400 and 400TX respecivly. The Arista Premium should use the times for 400TX. Note that there has been some controversy for the time calulated by Kodak for HC-110B for this film. There should be a thread on this topic.

Red Tractors · Apr 7, 2013

I have never used Arista Premium, but I have had good luck running new Tri-x with the "old" times in HC-110. I would not hesitate to run AP400 at the old tri-x times.

Photo-gear · Apr 13, 2013

As I said up above, the Mass Chart gives the impression that Arista Premium 400 has an old and new emulsion, although I think they only copied off the times related to the Tri-X film, old and new...

cmacd123 said:
There are "old" and "new" times for TX400 and 400TX respecivly. The Arista Premium should use the times for 400TX. Note that there has been some controversy for the time calulated by Kodak for HC-110B for this film. There should be a thread on this topic.

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