New Agfa APX 100 and APX 400 + HC110

arturo_rs · May 4, 2022

Hello.

Does anybody know the developing time of the Agfa APX 100@100 and APX 400@400 with HC110 dilution B?
I´ve tried massivedevchart and i don´t find it. Also tried searching for the pdf´s of agfa but they don´t include hc110.

Thanks

AgX · May 4, 2022

Welcome to Apug!

Well, instead of searching at Agfa data sheets, looking at Kodak data sheets from those days makes more sense to me.
Though it seems Kodak had that the HC110 processing times not online then ...

arturo_rs · May 4, 2022

AgX said:
Welcome to Apug!

Well, insread of searchung at Agfa data sheets, looking at Kodak data sheets makes more sense to me.
Though it seems Kodak never had that the HC110 processing times online...

I mean, the new Agfa rolls, this one: https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/agfaphoto-apx-100-135-305m-35-mm-new.html?cache=1651655035

bedrof · May 4, 2022

@arturo_rs You can check if massivedevchart lists times for Kentmere Pan films or Rollei RPX, which are considered to be the same as NEW Agfaphoto APX 100/400

arturo_rs · May 4, 2022

bedrof said:
@arturo_rs You can check if massivedevchart lists times for Kentmere Pan films or Rollei RPX, which are considered to be the same as NEW Agfaphoto APX 100/400

thank you

AgX · May 4, 2022

I am puzzled !

The data of the AgfaPhoto APX in HC 110 are on the massivedevchart.

But those of the Agfa APX are not. That is why I assumed the OP actually meant what he wrote, namely inquiring on the 17 years old Agfa made APX films.

AgX · May 4, 2022

To make things clear again,

Packaging of :

old Agfa APX: orange rhomb

new AgfaPhoto APX (not made by Agfa): red dot

arturo_rs · May 4, 2022

AgX said:
I am puzzled !

The data of the AgfaPhoto APX in HC 110 are on the massivedevchart.

But those of the Agfa APX are not. That is why I assumed the OP actually meant what he wrote, namely inquiring on the 17 years old Agfa made APX films.

But....APX 100 pushed, not @100.

With APX 400, is true but i´ve search and i found 6 minutes vs. 8 minutes (massivedevchart). Any big diference between 6 and 8 when developing? I mean, the results might be the same?

Thanks

AgX · May 4, 2022

I see. I just saw the chart, but did not look for details, as I did not expect such chart for a standard developer to contain only push-processing results. Weird.

(One only lives once, but one better always looks twice...)

grain elevator · May 4, 2022

There is pretty wide consensus that these films are the same as Kentmere 100 and 400. Maybe you can find more info under that name.

arturo_rs · May 4, 2022

grain elevator said:
There is pretty wide consensus that these films are the same as Kentmere 100 and 400. Maybe you can find more info under that name.

What about Rollei RPX 100 and 400. Might be the same too? What do you think?

Buzz-01 · May 4, 2022

grain elevator said:
There is pretty wide consensus that these films are the same as Kentmere 100 and 400. Maybe you can find more info under that name.

I don't use HC110, but for other developers (xtol, FX-39, Rodinal, D-76) I use Kentmere 100 and 400 times for AgfaPhoto APX films with good results.

grain elevator · May 4, 2022

arturo_rs said:
What about Rollei RPX 100 and 400. Might be the same too? What do you think?

I think I've read that, no personal experience, but seems highly plausible to me.

npl · May 6, 2022

I recently shot a roll of Agfaphoto APX 100 in bright cloudless daylight and tried different things, including HC-110 (b) for 6min, 7min, and dilution (g) 1:119 60min semi stand dev.
With this first test I found 7min to be a little too much in theses particular conditions, but that should be OK with a nicer light. Of course, the density I like to get might not be what you like.
Incident reading from a sekonic light meter, standard agitation (30s first min, 10s at the start of every minutes).
Good luck !

DF · May 15, 2022

'Never shot Agfa B&W films.
How would it compare with, say, Ilford FP4? Good grey tones?

markjwyatt · May 15, 2022

ON the Massive Dev Chart, there is a section for obsolete films. Agfapan APX 100 & 400 are listed there. Agfaphoto is listed on the main chart.

Agfapan 100
Agfapan 400

npl · May 16, 2022

npl said:
I recently shot a roll of Agfaphoto APX 100 in bright cloudless daylight and tried different things, including HC-110 (b) for 6min, 7min, and dilution (g) 1:119 60min semi stand dev.
With this first test I found 7min to be a little too much in theses particular conditions, but that should be OK with a nicer light. Of course, the density I like to get might not be what you like.
Incident reading from a sekonic light meter, standard agitation (30s first min, 10s at the start of every minutes).
Good luck !

Quick follow-up to my previous post : I shot a whole roll of Agfaphoto APX 100 and developed it in HC-110 (b) for 6.5min, it looks fine. It happen to be the time for ilfotec HC in the kentmere 100 datasheet.

New Agfa APX 100 and APX 400 + HC110

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