Neopan SS @ 200

Krzys · Jul 18, 2009

I usually shoot Hp5 and tonight tried out a roll of Neopan SS 100 in my new Mamiya 645 super. Developed in D-76 1:1 for 9 mins at 20c with 1 minute of initial inversions then five every minute. The result seems to be the thinnest negatives Ive seen, though I have never shot this film before. The film base is very very pale, though the photos look tonally adequate.

Is this normal?

Mick Fagan · Jul 18, 2009

I normally use this film at 80 ASA, I haven't shot much of it, about 10 rolls of 135, but using D76 1+1 at 20ºC, I develop it (rotary) for 10'30".

I have quite good negs for printing with a colour enlarger.

As you are pushing the film, you might find you need to develop it in a stock solution, giving you better results.

A stock solution, is developer with no added water.

I would expect to see thin(ish) negatives, if I exposed at 200 ASA and developed as you have.

Mick.

Krzys · Jul 18, 2009

I was going according to Digital Truth's chart.

Mick Fagan · Jul 18, 2009

Well I looked up that chart, it says 9'45", remember you are shooting 120 film, aren't you?

The difference between 9'0" and 9'45" is about 1/8th of a stop, how much thinner, compared to other negs you have, are they?

That said the times up there are usually a very good starting point, but this film isn't generally sold in many parts of the world. It is possible therefore that the sample of people making submissions regarding this film may be quite low.

I have no idea, how people get a submission into the Massive Developing Chart though.

Mick.

CuS · Jul 18, 2009

Krzys said:
I usually shoot Hp5 and tonight tried out a roll of Neopan SS 100 in my new Mamiya 645 super. Developed in D-76 1:1 for 9 mins at 20c with 1 minute of initial inversions then five every minute. The result seems to be the thinnest negatives Ive seen, though I have never shot this film before. The film base is very very pale, though the photos look tonally adequate.

Is this normal?

If you are going to shoot ss at 200 then soup it in diafine 3+3 - that should work better

Krzys · Jul 18, 2009

Bah, whops I only put down the 35mm instructions in my darkroom. Solves the problem I guess

Anscojohn · Jul 18, 2009

Tweaking development time and getting a true film exposure index is a necessity with a new film. No big deal. Why the minimal agitation, though? I suggest ASA agitation pattern of five minutes on the half minute. Some folks use ten seconds on the minute.

Krzys · Jul 18, 2009

Ten seconds on the minute is what I do

Anscojohn · Jul 18, 2009

Krzys said:
Ten seconds on the minute is what I do

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Ahh, now I see it; you meant five inversions every minute. I read it as five seconds.

Christiaan Phleger · Jul 18, 2009

Well, its a very robust film, and from experience I can tell you it can handle a lot more exposure and development, good negs from this film tend to look a bit thinner. I tend to give a bit more exposure, 80 is about right. The 1 min first agitation is very good, all the Neopans benefit, giving smoother tones in sky areas. I did some Neopan SS in UFG at 200 and it looked very good.

Neopan SS @ 200

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