Negative pages for 6x7 shots?

Dan Daniel · Nov 13, 2021

So how do people deal with storing 6x7 negatives? I am used to shooting either 6x6 or 6x9. The Photofile 120-4B page handles this. Either 3 6x6 shots per row, times 4. Or 2 6x9 shots per row, times 4

But 6x7 gets me 2 6x7 per row with 2 shots left over. So I tuck them into the bottom row overlapping the other negatives. Dangerous scratch move.

Do I need to get a different Photofile page design? 3 rows, at 3 per row, still leaves a straggler negative.

Thanks.

MattKing · Nov 13, 2021

I use the pages that have columns, rather than rows.
That gives room for three strips of three, plus the straggler.
Printfile 120-3HB - https://www.printfile.com/product/120-3hb_100/

Dirb9 · Nov 13, 2021

I use the print-file 120-4UB ( https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...le_PF1204UB100_Archival_Storage_Page_for.html ), and do 2 strips of 2 negatives, and 2 strips of 3, as I don't like fussing around with single frames if I can avoid it. Bonus for 220, as 3HB or 4UB will fit a 220 roll in two pages instead of 3. The pages are slightly oversize (8.5x11) compared to the standard 8x10" 120 pages, but the 35mm pages I use (35-6HB) are slightly oversize as well, so they all fit the same binder.

dourbalistar · Nov 13, 2021

Dirb9 said:
I use the print-file 120-4UB ( https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...le_PF1204UB100_Archival_Storage_Page_for.html ), and do 2 strips of 2 negatives, and 2 strips of 3, as I don't like fussing around with single frames if I can avoid it. Bonus for 220, as 3HB or 4UB will fit a 220 roll in two pages instead of 3. The pages are slightly oversize (8.5x11) compared to the standard 8x10" 120 pages, but the 35mm pages I use (35-6HB) are slightly oversize as well, so they all fit the same binder.

I use the same Print File sleeves as @Dirb9. I cut three frames in the top two rows, and two frames each for the bottom rows.

Dan Daniel · Nov 13, 2021

Great, thanks for the info everyone. I'll get some of the 120 4UB pages and get on with it!

MattKing · Nov 13, 2021

Dan Daniel said:
Great, thanks for the info everyone. I'll get some of the 120 4UB pages and get on with it!

Be sure to note that you will also need the larger binders, and if you are like me need to put those binders on a different shelf than where the rest of my negative binders reside.
One of the big reasons I'd like to have a 6x8 camera.

Dan Daniel · Nov 13, 2021

Thanks for the reminder, Matt. I noticed that issue. I need to confirm if my binders will hold the wider pages.

mtjade2007 · Nov 13, 2021

If you use a Minolta MF film scanner keep in mind that the film tray will not accept film strip of 3 6x7 frames. There is only room for 2 6x7 frames.

itsdoable · Nov 13, 2021

mtjade2007 said:
If you use a Minolta MF film scanner keep in mind that the film tray will not accept film strip of 3 6x7 frames. There is only room for 2 6x7 frames.

Neither will Nikon and Epson holders...

But I still use the 120-4UB pages.

Andrew O'Neill · Nov 13, 2021

For 6x7 I sleeve 3 frames, 3, 2, and 2 frames. It is a pain but I'm used to it now.

rulnacco · Nov 14, 2021

Sounds like everyone's got you sorted on which negative pages to use. If you're proof printing black and white, that *won't* fit on to an 8x10 sheet. Ilford makes 9.5x12 inch sheets which are bigger than you really need, but work great for proofing 6x7. I print contact sheets on that size and trim them to close to the edges of the film frames.

RalphLambrecht · Nov 14, 2021

Dan Daniel said:
So how do people deal with storing 6x7 negatives? I am used to shooting either 6x6 or 6x9. The Photofile 120-4B page handles this. Either 3 6x6 shots per row, times 4. Or 2 6x9 shots per row, times 4

But 6x7 gets me 2 6x7 per row with 2 shots left over. So I tuck them into the bottom row overlapping the other negatives. Dangerous scratch move.

Do I need to get a different Photofile page design? 3 rows, at 3 per row, still leaves a straggler negative.

Thanks.

Actually the reason why I stuck two 6 x 6 and 6 x 9; never saw the benefit of 6x7

Don_ih · Nov 14, 2021

I put the extra on the next Printfile. I'm terribly disorganized about it.
I'm surprised no one has started screaming "Glassine! Plastic is an abomination!" yet.

macfred · Nov 14, 2021

Don Heisz said:
I put the extra on the next Printfile... Glassine! Plastic is an abomination!

Same here - plus some selfprinted adhesive labels with informations (roll #; film type; ...) on the several rows of the printfile. And I use Glassine for sure !

Alan Edward Klein · Nov 14, 2021

mtjade2007 said:
If you use a Minolta MF film scanner keep in mind that the film tray will not accept film strip of 3 6x7 frames. There is only room for 2 6x7 frames.

Same issue with the Epson V850. Three negatives don't fit.

Alan Edward Klein · Nov 14, 2021

RalphLambrecht said:
Actually the reason why I stuck two 6 x 6 and 6 x 9; never saw the benefit of 6x7

6x7 format fits 8x10" and 16x20" prints nicely. What camera do you use for 6x9 format shots?

eli griggs · Nov 15, 2021

You might try 6cm roll sleeves, which can handle the over length of 6cm x ? framed negative s.

I have almost a full roll of this archive material and can cut 6x9cm just as easily as any 6x4.5, 6x6, etc films.

Plus, if you've a mind to, you can store the rolls in a single sleeve.

Cheers and Godspeed.

mtjade2007 · Nov 16, 2021

itsdoable said:
Neither will Nikon and Epson holders...But I still use the 120-4UB pages.

I modified my Minolta medium format try to fit 3 6x7 frame strips. To scan the middle 6x7 frame the leading frame will bump into a barrier to keep the film to reach beyond the barrier. I cut the barrier off. It's only plastic. I opened up a 6 cm wide opening out of the barrier. The film will only be about 1 cm sticking beyond the barrier and it scans just fine. So I use PrintFile 120-4UB pages too. One page will be enough for a 120 roll, two pages for one 220 roll.

RalphLambrecht · Nov 17, 2021

Alan Edward Klein said:
6x7 format fits 8x10" and 16x20" prints nicely. What camera do you use for 6x9 format shots?

some time ago a Fuji. now ,a roll-film back on my 4x5s.

eli griggs · Nov 24, 2021

eli griggs said:
You might try 6cm roll sleeves, which can handle the over length of 6cm x ? framed negative s.

I have almost a full roll of this archive material and can cut 6x9cm just as easily as any 6x4.5, 6x6, etc films.

Plus, if you've a mind to, you can store the rolls in a single sleeve.

Cheers and Godspeed.

eli griggs · Nov 24, 2021

I just want to update my post be noteing my 6x6 cm sleeve is a Printfile product.

I just need to find some 135 stuff to do the same with.

Have a Super Thanksgiving, Godspeed and Love to all those here and their Loved Ones!

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