Thanks again John for a great weekend -- it was nice to get out and be with people shooting film cameras. Makes one feel like less of an old fuddy-duddy anachronism. Though all the i-whatstits were a bit intimidating: I still use my 1988 Toshiba T-1000 (512K ram, DOS 2.11, single floppy ...) when working under the trees - it waits for my next keystroke just as fast as any 2.8 GHz quad core in existence.