Mystery film?

cmacd123 said:

I would flag it as Private label made or at least packaged by Ilford.

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You may be right but to be sure I wonder if Simon Galley will tell us if Ilford use its own backing paper and ringed dots notation on film it makes for a Private label. For instance it is said that Ilford makes Fuji chromogenic 400 film. Well if it does make that other maker's film does it use Fuji backing paper or its own and has it ever made an unknown, unspecified Private label. Still more questions than answers

pentaxuser

I showed the paper to a friend yesterday. He said that it was definitely Ilford because of the font of the words Exposed and Unexposed. Could be, I suppose.

pentaxuser said:

Unless other makers use the same system as Ilford which I doubt from my memory of the above unknown thread this backing paper is exactly the same as some I had kept from an Ilford 120

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I have just checked one I have at the office and confirm that it is exactly the same as an Ilford, HP5+ to be precise, backing paper.

goros said:

I have just checked one I have at the office and confirm that it is exactly the same as an Ilford, HP5+ to be precise, backing paper.

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Interesting. I always do my HP5+ in D76 1+1 for 13 minutes. I did the mystery film for 12 minuets, and it seemed the highlights were a little hot. Could have been overexposed, I guess, or I just misjudged it. I still have the paper. I'll check it against an HP5+ next time one comes through.

Thanks!

pentaxuser said:

For instance it is said that Ilford makes Fuji chromogenic 400 film. Well if it does make that other maker's film does it use Fuji backing paper or its own

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The machine that packs the film proably uses some of the little bars and dots on the paper to locate it in the machine, so if they are packing film thay would have to use paper made with those markings in mind.

If they make a given film for Fuji, I would guess it would be more likely for them to ship the raw rolls, and let Fuji pack them on their own machines. On the other hand if they pack film for Maco, they may receive the bulk rolls and just pack it with their own paper. for example, I have noticed Maco advertising a version of CR200 in 120 in packaging like the rollei 25 and friends.. IF Illford packs that they would receive the film in bulk, as they do not make any colour film themselves.

mfohl said:

Interesting. I always do my HP5+ in D76 1+1 for 13 minutes. I did the mystery film for 12 minuets, and it seemed the highlights were a little hot. Could have been overexposed, I guess, or I just misjudged it. I still have the paper. I'll check it against an HP5+ next time one comes through.

Thanks!

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Hi,

I'm not saying the film was HP5+, just that the backing paper I have checked, that is the same as the one you show, is from a HP5+ film. It could happen that Ilford uses the same backing paper for other films.

To save costs Ilford these days uses one backing paper for all its 120 films. The film type is indicated on the band round the roll and on the sealing tape at the end of the roll. Whether they also use this backing paper for films they make or pack for other brands I don't know.

Hmm -- as this thread popped up and I looked back through, I noticed part of my typing in post #21 appears to have gone to an alternate universe (hate when that happens ...)

The other is that Fuji has

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was supposed to continue with some blather about two rows of numbers along the center of the paper, but they share only a single row of the decreasing circle patterns (rather odd, methinks). The Kodak and Fuji films have a row of the approach flags (how's that for a name) for each row of numbers. (Alas, it's days too late to edit the original!)

The other is that Fuji has....Dave, it sounds like the end of a Peter Gunn episode. He knows that you are the man with the information. He has tracked you across town and cornered you in an alley. He knows that you know there is no escape as he grabs your lapels but strangely that faraway look on your face tells him you don't seem to care. He gets you to start the crucial sentence and then you slump forward to reveal a 12 inch bayonet in your back.

Peter looks towards the camera with a frustrated snarl......cue Duane Eddy

pentaxuser

Cool. Not only a Peter Gunn, but also a Duane Eddy reference. I'll bet not many folks clued up about that ....

Wooo-ha -- thread drift! :munch:

I think I solved the mystery. I got a roll of 120 HP5+. The only place it says HP5+ is on the little green gummed paper that goes around the film after it's been exposed. If that paper comes off, there is no other identification.