My Gothic Son

norm123 · Mar 13, 2014

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=111734&d=1394307646

Sinar F-1
Zeiss Planar (Linhof) 135 mm at circa f 4.0
HP-5 + souped in D-76 1+1 11min. Tray development
Printed on Ilford MGIV FB at grade 2.5
Selenium toned (KRS) 1+3 7 min.
Scanned from print

Feedback is welcome

benjiboy · Mar 13, 2014

I'm not a member of the L.F.F., I suggest if you want to show your work on A.P.U.G. you become a subscriber and put your pictures in the gallery.

Ghostman · Mar 13, 2014

I guess for a kid these days Nirvana must be very retro-cool.

Ah, my heart breaks for 1991

(very nice picture btw)

ntenny · Mar 13, 2014

It is a nice picture, but back in the day Nirvana was about as far from goth as you could get. Kids these days, hmph.

There are a lot of miniature-format folks here who won't be members at LFF, though. I agree with Ben: subscribe and gallerize!

-NT

norm123 · Mar 13, 2014

benjiboy said:
I'm not a member of the L.F.F., I suggest if you want to show your work on A.P.U.G. you become a subscriber and put your pictures in the gallery.

I just suscribed to APUG.
I figure that it will be easier to publish in this way.

norm123 · Mar 13, 2014

ntenny said:
It is a nice picture, but back in the day Nirvana was about as far from goth as you could get. Kids these days, hmph.

There are a lot of miniature-format folks here who won't be members at LFF, though. I agree with Ben: subscribe and gallerize!

-NT

I just suscribed to APUG.
I figure that it will be easier to publish in this way.

Rick A · Mar 13, 2014

Nice photo. My teenage daughter is into steam punk, my old folding cameras make for cool accessories for her.

Sirius Glass · Mar 13, 2014

Good Goth! Render unto Goth what Goth hath given!

Great photo!

trythis · Mar 13, 2014

Yep, cant see it/

snapguy · Mar 13, 2014

nothing

There is nothing there for me, whomever is on the other side will not give me access.

Hatchetman · Mar 13, 2014

It is in the APUG gallery now.

Tom1956 · Mar 14, 2014

I'm glad I don't have any kids. There isn't much place in the US any more where you can bring kids up to be like Beaver and Wally Cleaver.

StoneNYC · Mar 14, 2014

Tom1956 said:
I'm glad I don't have any kids. There isn't much place in the US any more where you can bring kids up to be like Beaver and Wally Cleaver.

Tom, you're making it too easy to tease you...

Anyway, OP the image is really great, I bet he loves it and it will get him lots of goth girlfriends (and I was once goth, and the girls are... Fun... So watch out!). But yea I never confused Nirvana with being goth... Hmmm

Are you sure he isn't emo, or some other sub culture? Hardcore or screamo or something new I'm not familiar with?

Nice image either way

Rick A · Mar 14, 2014

Tom1956 said:
I'm glad I don't have any kids. There isn't much place in the US any more where you can bring kids up to be like Beaver and Wally Cleaver.

I'm raising the last of eight kids in a remote rural town, where the kids don't have a clue who Wally and the beav were. They embrace everything on tv and are very much part of the modern culture. As for the genre of the OPs son, my daughter called him an "emo". I don't have a clue as to what or why.

StoneNYC · Mar 14, 2014

Rick A said:
I'm raising the last of eight kids in a remote rural town, where the kids don't have a clue who Wally and the beav were. They embrace everything on tv and are very much part of the modern culture. As for the genre of the OPs son, my daughter called him an "emo". I don't have a clue as to what or why.

Yea, emo would at least potentially explain the nirvana shirt... Though of he were emo he might get really defensive about not being emo when you called him emo... (Emo= emotional)

Rick A · Mar 14, 2014

Ahh--I see now, said the blind man---as he picked up his hammer and saw.....

Tom1956 · Mar 14, 2014

StoneNYC said:
Tom, you're making it too easy to tease you...

Anyway, OP the image is really great, I bet he loves it and it will get him lots of goth girlfriends (and I was once goth, and the girls are... Fun... So watch out!). But yea I never confused Nirvana with being goth... Hmmm

Are you sure he isn't emo, or some other sub culture? Hardcore or screamo or something new I'm not familiar with?

Nice image either way

Actually when I was a kid in the 60's, our school and our classrooms were almost exactly like Miss Lander's class, and our family and neighborhood lives were almost exactly like Beav, and Larry, and Whitey, Tooey, Lumpy, Chester, and Wally. And there was always a Judy Hensler type in the classroom.
Leave it to Beaver was practically a reality show to me.
Edit: oops, Almost forgot about Eddie Haskell. We had one of those too. His name was Sam Helms.

peteyj10 · Mar 14, 2014

StoneNYC said:
Yea, emo would at least potentially explain the nirvana shirt... Though of he were emo he might get really defensive about not being emo when you called him emo... (Emo= emotional)

He might just be "scene". Scene and emo kids dress pretty much the same way, but act differently. Scene kids kind of act like skaters...emo kids get overly dramatic about the smallest things in life.

Emo kids are the "I hurt myself so that I can feel alive!" bunch. The "You couldn't possibly understand what I'm going through" kids. The "rip my black cold heart out of my chest and throw it on the ground" kids. The good news is, when emo kids outgrow that phase, many of them become hipsters, which is great for the future of film. Hipsters love film.

StoneNYC · Mar 14, 2014

Tom1956 said:
Actually when I was a kid in the 60's, our school and our classrooms were almost exactly like Miss Lander's class, and our family and neighborhood lives were almost exactly like Beav, and Larry, and Whitey, Tooey, Lumpy, Chester, and Wally. And there was always a Judy Hensler type in the classroom.
Leave it to Beaver was practically a reality show to me.
Edit: oops, Almost forgot about Eddie Haskell. We had one of those too. His name was Sam Helms.

More to my earlier "teasing" of you, if your life was so happy, why are you always so bleak now? Lo

StoneNYC · Mar 14, 2014

peteyj10 said:
He might just be "scene". Scene and emo kids dress pretty much the same way, but act differently. Scene kids kind of act like skaters...emo kids get overly dramatic about the smallest things in life.

Emo kids are the "I hurt myself so that I can feel alive!" bunch. The "You couldn't possibly understand what I'm going through" kids. The "rip my black cold heart out of my chest and throw it on the ground" kids. The good news is, when emo kids outgrow that phase, many of them become hipsters, which is great for the future of film. Hipsters love film.

hahhaha! I forgot about scene kids! Hah!

And I like the whole hipster transition mindset good call!

pbromaghin · Mar 14, 2014

Tom1956 said:
Actually when I was a kid in the 60's, our school and our classrooms were almost exactly like Miss Lander's class, and our family and neighborhood lives were almost exactly like Beav, and Larry, and Whitey, Tooey, Lumpy, Chester, and Wally. And there was always a Judy Hensler type in the classroom.
Leave it to Beaver was practically a reality show to me.
Edit: oops, Almost forgot about Eddie Haskell. We had one of those too. His name was Sam Helms.

My school and classrooms were too. But then, around 1968, something went terribly wrong.

ntenny · Mar 14, 2014

It's probably hopelessly dated now, but there used to be a standard joke about emo grass. It cuts itself, you see.

At my age I'm supposed to be a curmudgeon about all the different cultural classifications of youth, I guess, but I still think they're kind of charming. The ability of young people to generate endless different signifiers of identity, and thus provide the portraitists among us with an ever-evolving pool of raw material, is astonishing and admirable.

-NT

Vaughn · Mar 14, 2014

Great image! Amazing enough he posed for you, I suppose!

I have three 17 year old boys (17 at the end of the month technically) -- no goths, emos, scenes, or whatever. Don't know why. I have one that wants to start his own hedge fund, live in a big apartment in NYC and wants to go to Harvard or Stanford. One that is thinking about the Colorado School of Mines to study Fusion, and one that spends a lot of time on the computer playing games (not a full-blown gamer, but close, so I do have a 'something', I guess).

Definitely not Leave It to Beaver -- I was a SAHD, wife divorced me when the boys were old enough that she thought they could handle it, and the boys bounce back between us every two weeks.

The Boys
11x14 negative, Platinum print

StoneNYC · Mar 14, 2014

pbromaghin said:
My school and classrooms were too. But then, around 1968, something went terribly wrong.

Dissolutionment...

Essentially those being beaten at home, drunk fathers and loveless mothers, and seeing it on TV completely different, that spawned the hippies... Trying to find something REAL instead of something they were told was how it should be when it never was that way... For most...

ntenny said:
It's probably hopelessly dated now, but there used to be a standard joke about emo grass. It cuts itself, you see.

At my age I'm supposed to be a curmudgeon about all the different cultural classifications of youth, I guess, but I still think they're kind of charming. The ability of young people to generate endless different signifiers of identity, and thus provide the portraitists among us with an ever-evolving pool of raw material, is astonishing and admirable.

-NT

This is a nice perspective to have, instead of complaining about "all the darn tattoos" now, embracing the new raw material as something new to work with instead of the "same old thing" I hope I can keep that and remember it in my own old age.

Tom1956 · Mar 14, 2014

pbromaghin said:
My school and classrooms were too. But then, around 1968, something went terribly wrong.

Yeah, timetable is about right. I know what went wrong, but this isn't the forum for that.

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