I can see the case for shooting color film and optically printing it. I think you are in a distinct minority though.Personally, I shoot color and b&w negative film and optically print it for best quality. Scanning film has never appealed to me, nor digital.
I can see the case for shooting color film and optically printing it. I think you are in a distinct minority though.
I would be happy with my scanning quality for Alt Prints too. Just not sure why I wouldn't shoot digital in the first place.As you know Frank I have all the camera film gear and processing capabilities for colour film so I only do this, never owned a digital camera. So I scan everything at high resolution and am happy with my resulting Alt Prints...
I came late to digital (film: 1973, digital: 2012). I shoot digital just like I shoot film - one frame at a time. Not sure about the ethos part of it. I'm interested in the resulting image.I like shooting film because it is a whole different ethos and a much different way of shooting.
No sneering implied; I am trying to comprehend why people do what they do.Do what works for you, but don't sneer at what others like to do, that's up them, each to their own.
"Is it just because it is trendy? The usual counter-culture leanings of youth?" - seems kind of patronising to me. As for the ethos, you don't think shooting medium format or 4x5 using a tripod and spot meter is different to shooting digital? or loading and unloading a camera? or experimenting during dev? It's completely different. It's far more involved approach, there's more work and planning involved, it's easier to get wrong, more challenging, I like that. Digital become boring for me, it's as much about the journey as the end result for me.I came late to digital (film: 1973, digital: 2012). I shoot digital just like I shoot film - one frame at a time. Not sure about the ethos part of it. I'm interested in the resulting image.
No sneering implied; I am trying to comprehend why people do what they do.
I shoot MF and LF film so I know there are differences. For me, they don't rise to an ethos. Loading and unloading film from a camera or film holders is a mechanical activity also not rising to an ethos for me. The challenges in good film and digital practice are different, one neither less nor more challenging than the other. I like the craft aspects of platinum palladium, which is much of what I do, but I like the flexibility of digital negatives. I've done them from both scanned film and from digital. For me, the journey is important, but the result is more important. But most color film shooters are not doing MF/LF, nor are they doing their own processing, nor are they doing their own scans, nor are they making their own prints, so all of these points seem tangential to the discussion, but I appreciate you viewpoint.As for the ethos, you don't think shooting medium format or 4x5 using a tripod and spot meter is different to shooting digital? or loading and unloading a camera? or experimenting during dev? It's completely different. It's far more involved approach, there's more work and planning involved, it's easier to get wrong, more challenging, I like that. Digital become boring for me, it's as much about the journey as the end result for me.
I shoot MF and LF film so I know there are differences. For me, they don't rise to an ethos. Loading and unloading film from a camera or film holders is a mechanical activity also not rising to an ethos for me. The challenges in good film and digital practice are different, one neither less nor more challenging than the other. I like the craft aspects of platinum palladium, which is much of what I do, but I like the flexibility of digital negatives. I've done them from both scanned film and from digital. For me, the journey is important, but the result is more important. But most color film shooters are not doing MF/LF, nor are they doing their own processing, nor are they doing their own scans, nor are they making their own prints, so all of these points seem tangential to the discussion, but I appreciate you viewpoint.
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the ethos part, I'm not sure how you know what most colour film shooters are doing, by numbers, I certainly don't, though it would be interesting to find out. Lots of people are shooting medium format, judging by the prices of decent MF gear, at least here (UK), as they appear to be rising. Results do matter to me, but colour film looks different to digital to me anyway, a look I generally prefer, so the result is generally going to be better for me anyway.
So if all that it true, why are they shooting film to begin with.I feel it's due to the Walmart mentality. People want it NOW, they want it CHEAP and don't care about the quality. With FB and IG people have "friends" all over the world now that are just as important to them as family (and in some sad cases more important) so to share photos they need them digitized. Since FB and IG are low-fi representations of their images there is no point in making high rez scans.
Further to that if I were to take a high resolution scan into a drug store or Costco to get it printed it will be murdered anyway. There are fewer and fewer high quality photo finishers around these days. Our last local one closed up and I now have to send my digi scan files to Edmonton to get them printed. Lots of hassle and extra expense.
It seems not very many people have an appreciation nor value craftsmanship anymore. Everything has become a commodity.
Why? For new people shooting film, because it's cool and different. For us oldsters, because it's cool and familiar.
I get the feeling that most color film shooters are not making wet prints (or having wet prints made).
having it processed and scanned (generally at below optimum resolution) at significant expense,
With a digital camera!? Pass—.Why not just shoot digital?
Do you mean hipsterism?The usual counter-culture leanings of youth?
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