I bet KODAK VISION Color Print Film / 2383/3383 is pretty high contrast then to make up for the low contrast on the negative.
yep and specifically designed for projection.
Well....
The camera film is low in contrast because, among other things, the process of printing the film on to projection film causes an increase in contrast.
Used to be for the cheapskate, now not so much. For someone who wants a different film just to be different.Hah...back in the 70's Freestyle sold repacked movie negative film for 35mm still use. I think it was about $1.50 - $2.50 per 100 feet. It was for the cheapskate...not for special effects! Plus-X 100 foot cans were about $7.
There is enough difference to make films designed for ECN look terrible in C41.
Actually, the gamma of motion picture stock is identical to still photo aims; a 0.65 gamma for "normal" processing, 0.75 for a one-stop push and 0.85 for a two stop push (rare). It goes without saying, a one-stop "pull" is figured at 0.55 gamma...
The print stock is intentionally developed to a higher contrast/gamma for projection to offset the losses in enlargement of the image, loss of definition due to projection optics and atmospheric haze in the theater. Reflected images have different rules for contrast than transmitted images, like viewing from a print or a computer screen.
The positive stock used to make motion picture prints is tailored to fit the enhanced contrast range, not a byproduct of the printing process. Practically all release printing since the mid-1950's has been via direct contact printing; one of the least contrasty methods available.
Also, grain is less a concern with moving image stocks due to the rapidity of image placement on the screen, so you can get by with more grain on a motion picture stock than a still film stock, as the grain tends to dither-out upon projection. That's why motion picture stocks shot and printed tend to look more grainy than still film stocks.
How is this accomplished? I have 1000's of feet of Kodak MP film that sits in the fridge waiting for me to get off my butt and pony up the $ and effort for ECN II chemistry. I already use RA4 developer. Is there a secret sauce or technique I don't know about to process 5219 in RA4 developer? Inquiring minds want to know!Developing in C-41 leaves you with a washed out image. CD-3 can be bought online and mixed at home, or you can use RA-4 developer which also contains CD-3.
That makes sense.
The stuff I've been using has been a mite bit grainy. Though I think that gives it more sensitivity if possible? I don't know...
Well....
The camera film is low in contrast because, among other things, the process of printing the film on to projection film causes an increase in contrast.
The more interesting question is how the contrast of the projection print film compares to the contrast of:
1) colour print paper; and
2) the colour print material designed for printing and then displaying via transmitted light (think large, back illuminated advertisements).
The latter two materials are of course matched to the characteristics of colour negative film designed for the C41 process.
I get it, don’t commit thousands of photos to a process I haven’t tested. Yea that’s a really good idea.just sell the MP film and buy some C41. Much easier and predictable results.
If you shoot 1000s of feet on motion picture film and it doesn't work out you'll lose a lot of potentially good photos.
Exactly. You have bluemoon camera up in Oregon. They produce amazing prints from C41.I get it, don’t commit thousands of photos to a process I haven’t tested. Yea that’s a really good idea.
How is this accomplished? I have 1000's of feet of Kodak MP film that sits in the fridge waiting for me to get off my butt and pony up the $ and effort for ECN II chemistry. I already use RA4 developer. Is there a secret sauce or technique I don't know about to process 5219 in RA4 developer? Inquiring minds want to know!
BTW, back in the 70's Freestyle sold all sorts of interesting films. They may have sold Kodak 5247, I know there was a shop (RGB Lab?) a few blocks down Sunset Blvd that did, I still have a couple of rolls. They ran it through ECN process, then contact printed to motion picture print film and mounted the "slides." The color was good, though not as punchy as Ektachrome. The tough part was when I wanted enlargements and took the negs to a custom lab. They would roll their eyes and grimace when they saw the edge markings. Prints looked okay though, I don't know what kind of crazy corrections they had to do.
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