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Alan Johnson

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http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Mortensen/mortensen.html

If lighting is flat, portraits (of light-haired people?) can be underexposed and push processed to give greater contrast between different parts of the skin.
I tried it with a modern film, the flat curve Fuji Acros, developed in Fomadon Excel (similar to Xtol, just happened to have this).
2 studio lights close to the photographer were used. Exposure was incident light on the model via a reliable flash meter.
(1) Normally exposed and developed.
(2) Underexposed 1 stop, developed 40% longer.
(3) Underexposed 1 stop, developed 40 minutes, agitated every 10 min -this is complete development, called gamma infinity.
Attachments are inverted negative scans, black/white points set, sharpened equally, resized, no other changes.

I wonder if there are any comments on underexposing and overdeveloping portraits, thanks.
 

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I believe your second image is best and comes closest to what Mortensen would have done minus the retouche, the third has maybe too much contrast for his liking

Have you also tried his extreme compensating development 24h in the fridge with some agitation every few hours? Btw X-tol is a much more active developer than Mortensen adviced. Also take a look at Mortensen American Girl (http://www.thescreamonline.com/photo/photo06-01/mortensen/americangirl.html) which pretty much epitomized Mortensen approach. Mortensen was also the meter for the highlights and develop for the shadows type. What light did you use Mortensen prefered soft contrast and diffused light. What is often forgotten is that Mortensen developed a system just like the Zone system it started with previsualization followed by complete control of the lighting conditions and development. I also advice you to get a copy of Mortensen's Pictorial lighting

Nice work
 

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Personally, I prefer the first. On the second, there's too much contrast on the left between her hair and the shadow of her neck, and the third is even moreso.
I presume that's what you were trying to achieve, but that's my personal taste, I don't like it too contrasty...
 

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hi alan

i don't have experience doing what you are doing
but i do have a recipe for mortensen's glycin varient:


mortensen's glycin variant film developer for use with his '7-D' approach:

water 750 ml
sodium sulfite 19 g
Glycin 4 g
sodium carbonate 19 g
water to make 1000 ml

soft working fine grain developer ( for gamma infinity - about 2 hours or so for any film. )

YMMV

have fun!
john
 

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"if lighting is flat..."

mortensen advocated flat lighting. it was a condition for his photography.
 

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perhaps using an old school film with a metol 2gr, borax 2gr, sod.sulfite 70gr / litre developer may approach something closer to mortensen's desired results.
 
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I have the book "Mortensen on the Negative" but it was written over 70 years ago and I cannot find much clue as to the characteristic curves of his films.
I am guessing that flat or upswept would be better than S shaped for giving good highlight separation,for 35 mm Delta 100, 100 T-max or Acros would give the finest grain and have flat curves.
I did not find much difference in grain between normal and gamma infinity development in my first test, it seems to be OK to use the Mortensen gamma infinity method with these films.It is a method that went out of fashion in the 50's and not much is known about results from modern film/developers when development is to finality, but fine grain would be nice for portraits.
 
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Nice work!

It actually shows how I shoot and develop film in flat lighting conditions, but in a much less precise and more 'flying by the seat of my pants' kind of way.
 

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How interesting that you did this test, because two days ago I made some test exposures to do exactly what you've done. My exposures were of plants in full shade, so even lighting of low contrast. I plan to use a dilute developer and let the film develop for several hours. Regarding your exposures, it is evident that progressively each exposure is lighter than the previous. I can see that any of the three would be appropriate if that's your vision of the final image -- and clearly having that vision is part of the Mortensen process. This is something I'm trying to get more into my head: when I consider what to photograph, I am often paying most attention to the subject (obviously) and how the image appears on the screen or in the rangefinder, but I'm not paying enough attention to the contrast within the image and how I should best expose to maintain the tone relationships I want. A true learning curve...
 
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