That's very interesting Raghu, I sell Pyrocat HD for the same price as Prescysol, the only difference I sell 1 litre kits for that 100ml price, and I make a very good profit.
I should add that Prescysol is Pyrocat, Peter Hogan was asked by Les Mclean and admitted it. This kind of exploitation needs high lighting.
For best stain, the developer should be a pyro type developer with low sulfite, the stop should be a wash and the fixer should be plain fresh thiosulfate. This will maximize stain.
There is no info on what is in the alkaline stop bath and prior to stocking this alkaline stop, John Finch's answer was to use a water bath.
Ian: It seems Photographic Formulary also sells Prescysol and lists Catechol and Metol in MSDS. So it could be a variant of Pyrocat-M.
in the debate on acid vs alkaline fix for staining/tanning developers, one factor that is ignored is the presence/absence of sulphite/metabisulphite in the fixer. It's interesting to note that PE recommends plain thiosulphate fixer for such developers.
how come nobody has marketed a staining hydroquinone developer yet?
Hydroquinone seems to have attained notoriety that somehow Catechol and Pyrogallol have avoided. Zone Imaging has even pledged that they'll never make developers that are HQ-based:
"We guarantee that none of our products will ever contain hydroquinone and DPTA/EDTA. In all our products, we will strive to minimise the environmental footprint."
Zone Imaging has even pledged that they'll never make developers that are HQ-based:
Hydroquinone seems to have attained notoriety that somehow Catechol and Pyrogallol have avoided. Zone Imaging has even pledged that they'll never make developers that are HQ-based:
"We guarantee that none of our products will ever contain hydroquinone and DPTA/EDTA. In all our products, we will strive to minimise the environmental footprint."
I normally like John Finch’s YT channel a lot, but this smells like pushing something on people for a premium which not quite long ago he did never use nor miss (his battle of the giants never involved any of the stuff he’s selling now)
What Sandy has to say is extremely interesting. It is called Large Format Photography podcast 57 Sandy King the pyrocat
I tried to copy and paste but failed
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Is he sure that Peter Hogan's Prescysol or its variant Prescysol EF for 35mm film is really an improvement on pyrocat HD
I have tested glycin in the Pyrocat-HD formula, both as an addition with phenidone and in place of phenidone. As an addition it makes the formula much more active without changing the stain or grain. In place of phenidone the formula is less active and grain size appears larger, but sharpness is bitting, rather like DiXactol.
Whenever the word "special" is used, alarm bells start ringing in my head.
the theft of his Formula as Prescysol
Ian: this is shame if true. Interestingly, Prescysol appears to have had a decent user base in its previous incarnation, at least going by Flickr, there seem to have been more users of Prescysol than Dixactol. Any idea why an obscure developer which is an allegedly a copy of Pyrocat HD became more popular than Dixactol?
If you look at the description of Prescysol EF on https://pictorialplanet.square.site/ carefully, it is mentioned that this special ingredient is Glycin. No idea if Glycin produces very fine grain when combined with Catechol but it seems to be contrary to what Sandy found.
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