when I use Ilfird PQ universal developer (phenidone based) with very low dilution like 1:200 to have low gamma, the developed film becomes brownish
What would be a suitable PQ concentrated fine grain developer formula that could be diluted 1+9 or 1+14 for one-shot use?
The low-contrast POTA developer contains 1.5 grams of phenidone. True, there is no ascorbate, but there is a huge amount of benzotriazole in this formula. But it's a really weird formula…
Ilfosol 3. At a certain point, highly concentrated developers and fine grain become increasingly incompatible without some innovative chemistry (see some of Ilford's 1990s patents for the problems with HC/ HC-110 type developers and the replacement components proposed).
In terms of concentrated developers, do you have any experience of Rodinal Special / Studional / Hydrofen ? - this developer seems get attention and be well regarded, while also being recommended for faster films. I've had good results with Tetenal Ultrafin in the past for slow-medium films, but wasn't completely satisfied with it for HP5 / Delta 400 etc.
Ilfosol 3. At a certain point, highly concentrated developers and fine grain become increasingly incompatible without some innovative chemistry (see some of Ilford's 1990s patents for the problems with HC/ HC-110 type developers and the replacement components proposed).
Studional seems to have been (conceptually at least), Agfa's attempt at an HC-110 type of developer, but semi-aqueous and using Triethanolamine rather than a Diethanolamine adduct. Like Ilford, there will have been a lot of commercial pressure on Agfa to release an HC-110 equivalent - just as Refinal was Agfa's equivalent to Microphen.
It was a suitable home brewed formula that I was asking for.
Yes, I thought that the sulphite might be a problem. I'm sure there must be a suitable recipe though without resorting to Rodinal or TEA/DEA based formulas.If you want to dilute and get fine grain, that would involve using the more soluble potassium sulfite rather than sodium sulfite.
This has a solubility of about 280 g/L which could only be diluted ~3-4x to make a fine grain developer.
As you know Bellini are marketing 'Hydrofen' and 'Euro HC' developers, rather than suggesting the former as an alternative to HC-110.
"surprisingly fine grain" from PQ without sulfite cannot be as fine grain as "fine grain" with sufite or the whole class of solvent developers would not exist.
"surprisingly fine grain" from PQ without sulfite cannot be as fine grain as "fine grain" with sufite or the whole class of solvent developers would not exist.
each had a user base (fandom, more like)
- constantly playing with developers does seem to be a strong interest amongst certain photographers.
Probably because it's easier to waste time and effort on that than on instigating basic process controls and getting on with actually making work.
- and it would help if retailers didn't over-egg certain products to make them seem to have "magical" properties, at least to new users.
I used glass marbles to displace the air in a large bottle and eventually discovered that the marbles make the bottle too heavy to conveniently use. I switched away from marbles, but I have not found a use for the marbles. I still have the marbles because I do not want others to say that I lost my marbles.
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