Minolta XG-M: Replacing the electrolytic capacitors

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For my planning: Are you interested in how to replace the four electrolytic capacitors on a Minolta XG-M?

In my opinion, many specimens are likely to be affected by leaking electrolytic capacitors, including damage to the surrounding conductor paths caused by electrolyte.

I have an older report on this that I could post here now, but I would do a few things differently today. But basically the report is still current.

Otherwise, I'll take this as a new project 2024, I have some XG-M for it here.

I would be happy to receive feedback on this.
 
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Are you interested in how to replace the four electrolytic capacitors on a Minolta XG-M?

Does a bear like to poop in the forest? Of course!

Since I have an XG-M that I'll be doing work on soon, I might as well check the caps and then it would most definitely be useful to have an up to date guide.
 
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Thank you!

I'm bored anyway because I'm not completely healthy yet, but I'm still too tired to do anything new 😶

I'm therefore posting an edited version of the old report, it's not that complicated. Essentially the replacement is the same as with the X-700.
 
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Minolta XG-M: Replacing the electrolytic capacitors

Not only the Minolta X-700/500/300 have electrolytic capacitors installed, but also the, somewhat older, XG-M. These can be either electrolytic (capacitors) or tantalum capacitors.

The XG-M has four of them. One under the base plate, two on the upper deck and one on the flexible circuit board on the prism.

The electrolytic capacitors are critical because they can leak over decades. The escaped electrolyte can then damage the circuit board to which the capacitors and other components are soldered. A process that takes place slowly.

An inspection therefore makes sense.



My XG-M for examination

My XG-M was in the treatment chair 😉

The base plate - solid metal by the way - is held in place by two screws. They are loosened with a JIS crosshead screwdriver:

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The circuit board can be seen on the right underside of the camera.

An electrolytic capacitor is installed.

And sure enough, electrolyte leakage can already be seen. The small turquoise deposit on a connecting leg of the electrolytic capacitor that the arrow points to:

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Since the electrolytic capacitor is positioned on the underside of the small circuit board, the circuit board must be dismantled.

To do this, two screws must be loosened, see the two arrows:

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Oops! The plastic surround for the three motor contacts has already come loose.

No drama, it was just glued on. Later it comes back to its seat:

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The circuit board is still held by the two connections of the battery chamber, see arrow:

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I have to unsolder them because otherwise I can't lift the board.

The green cable has to go so that I can get to the soldering points. A toothpick attached to the camera with adhesive tape keeps the cable at a distance. Alternatively you can also unsolder it:

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My desoldering pump is used to desolder the two battery contacts.

Here it is already set up as a test. It needs enough space and the tip must be as close as possible to the soldering point.

The solder is sucked off with the desoldering pump. First I make it liquid with the hot soldering tip:

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Since I need both hands to solder, there is unfortunately no photo of the desoldering process.

But the procedure was successful, the battery contacts have been unsoldered and the circuit board now only hangs on the soldered cables:

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With patience and sensitivity, the circuit board is unscrewed and secured to the camera with adhesive tape.

Now the bottom with the electrolytic capacitor is accessible. And I didn't have to unsolder any cables

You can see that the electrolyte has already leaked onto the circuit board. A turquoise spot:

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Here is the top of the circuit board with the two soldering points for the legs of the electrolytic capacitor.

An orange cable is also soldered to one of the two soldering points:

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So that I can unsolder the electrolytic capacitor, it comes off - put some flux on the soldering point, briefly touch the point with the soldering tip, gently pull on the cable - and that's it:

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Now I can unsolder the electrolytic capacitor.

Unfortunately, again, no photo of the process.

The leaked electrolyte on the legs:

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The circuit board after the procedure.

The electrolytic capacitor is gone, the electrolyte stain remains.

Fortunately, the damage to the circuit board is minimal. I'll take care of that later:

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There is still solder at both soldering points on the top of the board. It covers the holes for the connections.

The arrows show where:

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Desoldering pump and soldering tip are used again.

Here is the result, the holes for the connections are now free:

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Using the pointed probe, one of the holes is carefully widened; there was still some solder in it:

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Visual inspection - the holes are now clean.

A new electrolytic capacitor can be soldered in:

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The circuit board is now returned to its original position, but is not yet attached or soldered. I first have to get a new electrolytic capacitor to replace it.

A quick check to make sure none of the soldered cables have come off. There was some tension on it due to unscrewing and fixing the board with adhesive tape.

Everything OK:

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The old electrolytic capacitor and sucked solder that the desoldering pump had spat out:

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The XG-M can now rest, the removed small parts are fixed to the base plate with adhesive tape so that nothing gets lost until the next session:

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Thanks! I think on my own camera I'd be tempted to leave the PCB in place, desolder the cap and pry it out, and then solder an SMD cap of a suitable value across the contacts. A low voltage 0805 or 1206 ceramic 100uF will probably fit easily. Saves a couple of disassembly steps.
 
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Which electrolytic capacitor do I need to get?

The values are
  • 100 uF (microfarad)
  • 6.3 V
This shouldn't be anything exotic, I'll start looking.

It's best to buy several pieces at once, a small supply is always good and the shipping costs will probably be higher than the cost of the electrolytic capacitors.


On the board

Neighbors of the soldering points that I worked on are (according to the service manual for the XG-M) two transistors (marked LL) and two resistors (white) diagonally above them.

In contrast to the electrolytic capacitor that I unsoldered, these components are so-called SMD versions (surface mounted devices), i.e. miniature electronic components that are soldered directly onto the circuit board. These components save space, which is of course an advantage given the limited space in a camera.

The electrolytic capacitor is still intended for through-hole mounting (through-hole technology, THT), so it also has two connecting legs that come through the holes in the circuit board and are soldered in place:

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After extracting the leaked capacitor on the bottom of the camera, I moved on to the three additional capacitors that I knew were there.

One sits on the flexible circuit board above the prism and two more on the circuit board under the exposure compensation override. Fortunately, all three are more or less easily accessible.


Here we go!

The XG-M is now back on its base plate, which I had temporarily mounted. The new electrolytic capacitor is still missing here.

The top cover is removed.

To do this, as with the X cameras, some parts have to be removed; the process is essentially the same as with the Minolta X-700, see


The parts are placed on the work mat in the order in which they are removed:

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The screws for the housing are placed back in their respective positions:

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The top cover is off.

You should proceed carefully here, as it is connected to the camera via two soldered cables:

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A quick first look at the two electrolytic capacitors under the override.

And things look bad here.

Plenty of electrolyte leaked from both capacitors. The sight reminds me of a stalactite cave.

Of course, these two electrolytic capacitors have to come out.

It is noteworthy that the camera has worked perfectly so far despite this damage:

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Here is the electrolytic capacitor on the prism. It sits virtually freely on the flexible circuit board and looks perfect.

But its days are numbered, because it is probably only a matter of a few more years before it expires too.

It comes out:

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Corrosion can also be seen on the conductor tracks around the override. Left and right above the axis for the override dial, the green deposits.

I will carefully remove them as best I can.

The green color in the semicircle around the axis is not corrosion, but probably insulation or protective paint:

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The service manual for the XG-M lights up on the monitor above the table.

You can see the page with the exploded view for the external dismantling of the camera.

Before you start dismantling it, you should take a look here. It can save surprises:

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The top cover is now separated from the camera and no longer gets in the way. For this desolder the cables but do a photo of the soldering points first:

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To get to the two electrolytic capacitors at the bottom of the circuit board, I loosen the two fastening screws.

Corrosion can also be seen on one of the screws. Note: The camera looks like new from the outside:

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As hoped, the board can be raised sufficiently high. It is only held in place by the flexible conductor track above the prism and numerous cables soldered to the underside of the board.

The cables have enough leeway, so nothing needs to be unsoldered.

Today I would unsolder all the cables to the circuit board so as not to create any tension. Everyone should decide for themselves how they want to do things here:

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A suitably shortened toothpick is used to support the board.

The two electrolytic capacitors are now easily accessible:

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I'm thinking about whether I should unsolder both electrolytic capacitors or cut them off with side cutters. Since some of the soldering points are so corroded that the solder is no longer visible, I do both.

Here the right electrolytic capacitor is already missing a leg:

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The close-up shows the destructive effect of the leaked electrolyte.

Conductor tracks and solder joints are eaten away by corrosion and one day little or no current flows through them. Then the camera fails completely or partially.

After all, it has lasted for 40 years so far. That deserves respect:

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As you work on the spot, parts of the deposits crumble onto the work mat. The Swiffer is already there and cleans up:

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Back to the treatment chair 😉

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The workplace:

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The electrolytic capacitors are now removed.

You can see the corroded solder joints and partially corroded conductor tracks.

One cable is still soldered on:

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The cable is unsoldered and returns to its original place later when the new electrolytic capacitors are soldered in.

When cleaning the area it would only get in the way:

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The electrolytic capacitor on the prism is quickly unsoldered; the two soldering points are directly and freely accessible.

The process:
  • Tin the soldering tip with solder for the best possible heat transfer,
  • put some flux on the soldering points,
  • hold the tip to the soldering points successively and first pull one and then the other leg out of the liquid solder.
  • The shorter it takes, the better.
  • After all, it's 340 degrees Celsius (= 644 F) at the soldering tip and electronic components and conductor tracks don't like heat that much.
Unfortunately, there was no picture of the process itself today because no camera hand was free.

But here is the result, the electrolytic capacitor is gone:

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Here they lie now, the electrolytic capacitors that were hunted down.

In my enthusiasm, I didn't pay attention to which electrolytic capacitor belongs to which position in the camera and how the polarity is determined (an electrolytic capacitor is a polarized electronic component with a plus and a minus connection; it must be connected correctly).

But this is important because every electrolytic capacitor has a different value.

Good thing I took photos before for orientation.

The Minolta service manual for the XG-M also provides information about this in the layout view of the circuit:

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The cleared circuit board with the corroded passages.

This needs to be cleaned as best as possible. Otherwise the mess will continue:

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I'm trying a few cleaning methods. Knowledge of chemistry would be helpful now - what solves what?

Circuit board cleaner and isopropyl alcohol don't work, so my only option is the mechanical route with the circuit board tool and the fiberglass pen.

And that's not a safe thing to do, because when the deposits are scraped off the sensitive and thin conductor tracks, damage can quickly occur. But I have no other choice.

Today I would remove the battery acid residue with Durgol descaling solution and then Aqua purificata. Others use vinegar. It is important that everything is removed so that the corrosion does not progress. The Dremel Stylo with stainless steel brush does also a good job.

Here the result. The corrosion is almost completely removed. Unfortunately also a part of the outer conductor track, at least that's what it looks like 🤨

That's called collateral damage:

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The continuity tester on my multimeter provides certainty.

To do this, the measuring tips of the device are stopped before and after the damaged area.

The device creates a low measuring voltage between the tips.

If the conductor track is intact, current flows and the device beeps.

If not, then there is either too little current or no current at all.

And that's how it is in this case - the conductor track no longer conducts.

But you always have to think carefully about what you are measuring.

In complex circuits like this, the current can travel over many paths because there are many connections and branches. A continuity may then be detected where there is none because the current has found a better path.

In this case it should be clear. One measuring tip is basically at the end of the line, the current can only run through the part to be tested to the second measuring tip, there is no other way.

Nothing is happening here:

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I have now given up the habit of self-blame 😇

Because without intervention, the camera would sooner or later become inoperable and the damage to the circuit board would become greater. „Best possible“ in treatment means „best possible“ and not „optimal“.

But there is a solution: the damaged passage is bridged, a new conductor is pulled and the current can flow again.

For this I need a cable that is as thin as possible because I don't want to cram anything thick into it. It would also make the soldering points larger and so there is the risk of an unwanted connection between two adjacent conductor tracks during soldering.

I found what I was looking for in an abandoned Nikon MD-4 Motor Drive for the F3, which I had opened for studying purposes.

The donor cable is removed using side cutters:

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I strip one end of the insulation with the pliers (this has already been done in the picture above), twist the cables (it is a stranded cable consisting of several metal cables), put flux on the end and tin the end with the soldering tip. Ie. I put solder on the end so that it can be soldered in easily afterwards.

Then it gets exciting, the cable is soldered in and - it worked:

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The damaged conductor track is now bridged.

A check with the continuity tester produces a bright beeping sound - electricity is flowing again

Therefore the bridging should fit.

I'll know when I've installed the new electrolytic capacitors


Replacement electrolytic capacitors

I now have to find replacements for the three remaining electrolytic capacitors.

It's about the values
  • 33 uF, 6.3 V
  • 22 uF, 6.3 V
  • 2.2 uF, 50 V
Since I found an electrolytic capacitor with 100 uF, 6.3 V I am optimistic.

I don't understand why an electrolytic capacitor is installed here that can withstand 50 V charging voltage. The operating voltage is 3 V. But perhaps there was no other value.

But it definitely doesn't do any harm. Otherwise Minolta would probably not have used this electrolytic capacitor

Here is the XG-M with removed electrolytic capacitors:

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Here's another look at the soldered jumper cable, the gray one in the middle of the picture:

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I've gotten rid of the corrosion in the override area:

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The XG-M is reassembled. Only the cocking lever is still missing.

And oops, I forgot the unlock button for the timer dial while assembling it.

But the wheel can also be unlocked with the screwdriver for functional testing and the detents are correct:

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Now it's a break.

Once I've got the right electrolytic capacitors, I'll start again:

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So now everything is there to start the rescue operation for the XG-M 👍

Status:
  • Four electrolytic capacitors, some of which have expired, have been removed and four new ones are to be soldered in.
  • A piece of conductor track is bridged with a cable.
  • Conductor tracks are cleaned of corrosion.
  • Cables have to be soldered on again, as well
  • the contacts of the battery compartment to the circuit board.
I was still wondering whether it was a mistake not to have discharged the leaking electrolytic capacitors before removing them. But I don't see any problems here as long as I don't short-circuit the electrolytic capacitors.


Soldering in the new electrolytic capacitors

The XG-M is awaiting the procedure:

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The new electrolytic capacitors (with the long connections) are ready, next to the ones that were removed:

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I start by soldering the electrolytic capacitor to the bottom of the XG-M:

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We continue with soldering the two contacts on the left for the power supply and the orange cable on the electrolytic capacitor.

Two screws fix the board back in place:

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We continue to the upper deck.

The service manual shows the positions of the electrolytic capacitors C4, C7 and C8 on the upper circuit board.

In the table below the corresponding values are given in volts and farads:

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The camera comes upside down in the vice.

Two of the electrolytic capacitors are below deck and I can get to them that way.

A shortened toothpick supports the loosened circuit board again.

I check the fit with the mirror:

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Fits:

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I shorten and bend the connecting wires of the electrolytic capacitors to suit.

Unfortunately I can't show any pictures of the soldering process because I didn't have a third hand.

But it worked:

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The white wire on the right escapes its solder joint.

When stripping the insulation, the fine aluminum wires come loose, I have to shorten the cable, extend it with a second one and solder it in again.

The connection point between the two cables must be insulated.

The professional solution is a piece of shrink tubing. I don't have anything in this size in my storage box.

A piece of adhesive tape will also do the trick:

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C7, the last electrolytic capacitor, has its place on the circuit board.

Here it sits, already soldered on:

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After a few hours of concentrated work, the XG-M is reassembled in front of me:

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Was the replacement of the electrolytic condensators successful?

Have I missed anything or made any mistakes?

I insert a battery, cock the shutter, turn the main switch to ON ...

... a look through the viewfinder ...

... the index finger touches the shutter button ...

… the viewfinder LEDs light up …

... clack! The camera has triggered!

And it does it again and again.

I test all functions.

Everything as if the XG-M had just woken up.

And everything is going as it should!

I breathe a sigh of relief - luck was with me 😊

A nice camera with data back can get back to work.

I can now detach the two marking points - red for „defect“ and green for „repair“ 👍

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Simon Hawkett is the first to tackle this and reports about it on the web, as far as I can tell. He also shows in detail how the XG-M is gradually dismantled for work. Many thanks to him who I followed here!



Technical documents for the Minolta XG-M including Minolta Service manual.
 
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Conclusion
  • The report is very detailed, I hope there are not too many details.
  • Today I would no longer spread the upper circuit board apart, but would instead unsolder the connected cables. This means that cables and soldering points are not stressed.
  • It was my first major project over two years ago, so there are no JIS screwdrivers on the first few pictures in sight yet 😉
  • All electrolytic capacitors should be newly available. It is important that the capacity is correct and the nominal voltage is not smaller than specified if the exact values cannot be found on the market.
  • SMD components should also work. Every electronics technician knows what is needed. I won't go into this in more detail here because working with SMD requires a different soldering workflow that I won't show here. See also post #10 by @koraks in this thread.
  • I forgot to describe cleaning the bottom board from leaked electrolyte. The process is the same as I described for the top board. The stuff has to go and not allowed to continue.
  • I work with lead solder to repair older cameras that is contained there. In principle, you should not mix lead-containing solder with lead-free solder mainly because the processing temperatures are different. It's best to experiment beforehand to see whether your own soldering process fits.
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All information provided without guarantee and use at your own risk.
 
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Thank you for your feedback!

With this I close the topic for myself, the report is updated and therefore, in my opinion, there is no need for an update in the form of a new one.

But it would be informative if you would like to report here about your experiences with capacitor replacement on the XG-M.

I find the alternative with SMD components mentioned by @koraks particularly interesting.
 
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When working on electronics, you should use an ESD work mat with a wristband that is connected to ground. This means that the camera and the repairer are at the same electrical potential and electrostatic discharges, which can damage the ICs in particular, are avoided.

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Here you can see my smaller one out of two. The mat is connected to earth via the mains socket (yellow) and the wristband to the mat. High-resistance resistors prevent harmful high currents during potential equalization.

 
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You know who will remind you of this too 😎

Alright, I promised, so here you go.

Note that when I fix something, I fix it in order to get it going to again. I generally don't try to bring it back to a like-new situation.

This XG-M I was gifted a few years ago. Shot one or two rolls through it and there was something wrong with the mirror alignment IIRC, which I think I fixed back then. Anyway, it spent the past few years in storage, in a rather humid shed. I just fired it up to see if it still worked - sure enough, it didn't. Meter turned on alright, but camera went dead when trying to fire the shutter. Sounds like the dreaded capacitor issue, so here we go.


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Bottom panel removed; the capacitor in question is all the way to the left.

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Problem area. Note some caking of residue on the left-most capacitor contact. Note also general oxidation on the PCB traces; this PCB doesn't have a conformal coating or any other protection. The copper traces are tinned and that's it. Not unusual back in the early 1980s, although industry could very well do better back then, so why this wasn't properly protected in some way on a device that's expected to face adverse conditions (high humidity in particular), IDK. Anyway, that's not the issue here; it's that capacitor, so let's deal with that.

Would be nice if I could just replace this electrolytic with a ceramic capacitor as it will probably be easier to fit in there. And it'll never leak anymore. Something like this:
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These are 1206-size (3.2 * 1.6mm) SMD capacitors, 100uF 16V. They have no markings, so when you order these, be sure to mark the bag/box you store them in.
Note also that capacitance and voltage ratings of such film capacitors aren't absolute. They tend to withstand higher voltages quite well, but at reduced capacitance. However, since these are rated for 100uF at 16V, no worries. The original electrolytic is 100uF 6.3V so we have a very healthy safety margin. Also, 100uF is likely liberal to begin with. If desired, a much larger capacitance could be fitted, but why bother.

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The original capacitor to the left, its replacement to the right.

This is how I removed the original:
* Removed as much solder as possible from the two contacts using desoldering braid.
* Remove the single black screw holding down the PCB.
* Lift the PCB slightly and wiggle out the electrolytic.
No further desoldering or disassembly required. It took less than 5 minutes.
Admittedly, I did melt the shroud of the motor drive contacts a little. It's not a functional defect, but I could have been more careful. Then again, beater camera, as long as it works.

The reason why a 1206 cap seemed suitable to me is because the contact distance aligns quite well with the spacing of the contacts on the PCB:
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Soldered in place:
* Apply some tin to both contacts to build up a small bubble
* Tack one end of the capacitor in place
* Solder the other contact
* Then go back and solder the orange wire back onto the contact

Note sloppy damage to the motor drive contact shroud. What gives.

At this point I turned on the camera to see if it worked, and sure enough, it fired fine like this.

I had some concern that the metal bottom plate would no longer fit over the new capacitor, since the capacitor sits on top of the PCB instead of next to it. However, as it turns out, there's just enough space. In case it wouldn't have fitted, I would have soldered two leads to the SMD capacitor and dangled it in the space the original electrolytic occupied.

For good measure, I did put a little scrap of duct tape over the capacitor so that it won't contact with the bottom plate in case the plate gets a little dented or something.:
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Sealed her back up and it's now working again; I'll load some film into it one of these days to see how she fares.
 
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