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might get a C700 this weekend

bryans_tx

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It is $20 looks to be all there, and has a few extras like vc filters.

Maybe I should have never given away my omega 45 lol.
at least a C700 will fit in the bathroom with less objection.
Will have to locate a lens and carrier for 645 though.
im excited.
 

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Twenty dollars for a working enlarger is brilliant! I'd be happily telling the whole world, too, if it were me. Enjoy, bryans_tx!
 

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Sounds like an excellent deal! Have fun with the new enlarger.
 

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One of my dark room incarnations, I had four c-700's one set up for 35, 645, 6x6, 6x7. Very capable units, easy to use. You got a good deal.
 

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I paid more for mine, though it was a part of a package deal with holders, timer, drums, motor base, easel, etc. It's a workhorse of an enlarger. Does yours have a color head? Even if you're only printing black and white, you can use the filtrations to control print grade (versus fussing with the filters).
 

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(versus fussing with the filters)

VC filters are much easier and faster to change out than dialing filtration with a dichroic head. Have experience with both, dumped all my enlargers with color heads. The filters will fade with either, filters are ridiculous to change with dichro heads, new pack of VC filters fixes the other.
 

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I only work with two filtrations (00 and 4.5), and they're marked for easy changing. My color head has no filter drawer, and I'm not going to fool around with trying to clip or hold filters under the lens. For split grade printing (my m.o.), it's too easy to lose registration between exposures. Dialing in the filtrations is a smooth affair, and it frees my hands for dodging and burning. Maybe there's another way, but this works just fine for me.

Loose plastic gel filters are subject to wear and tear, loss, confusing one for the other, and fading. Get one wet and it's garbage. Dichroic filters are protected in their housing, and my understanding has been that they do not fade.
 
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just the basic B&W setup, standard lamp housing. I was never very educated in print making, this will suffice for some time. If I can stay with it, perhaps in a year or two, moving from a bathroom setup to something better will happen.
 

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You have a point with regard to instant single or half grade filtration changes, but when one requires a very subtle change, say, maybe a ¼ of a grade change, this requires a head, either a colour or dedicated B&W VC head. Little things like this are a very nice bonus. I actually have filtration values stuck on my darkroom wall that gives me 1/8 of a grade difference. When one is in the groove printing a high key print, then really small grade changes, often coupled with a 1/8 or 1/10 of a stop density change, can often turn a very good print into an unbelievable print that a client goes ga ga over. Split grade printing is very good, but the miniscule changes available with a Dichroic head anywhere along the gradation curve possibilities of the paper, really give one great control.

As for dichroic filters fading in a colour head, maybe, but so far I have not witnessed this. My own colour enlarger is a 1981 build DeVere 504 with a Dichroic Colour Head. It was installed in a colour lab in Melbourne in very January 1982 during the summer break. From that then on it worked two shifts each working day starting around 0800H and finishing up around 2130H each and every day until it was sold and purchased by myself in January 2001. In short, I know the life of my enlarger quite well. The filtration hasn't shifted enough to be noticeable since I purchased it from my old work place almost 16 years ago, it still works very well 35 years later still using the original Dichroic filters. They have done a shed load of work, as are the Dichroic filters in two other DeVere 504 enlargers from my old work, which now located in private darkrooms and still pumping along.

I have used an assortment of colour enlargers in an industrial setting, I have never heard of one having its Dichroic filters changed. Dichroic filters do fade, but as far as I understand, not enough to be changed when used in an enlarging head for photographic purposes.

Mick.
 

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When one is in the groove printing a high key print, then really small grade changes, often coupled with a 1/8 or 1/10 of a stop density change, can often turn a very good print into an unbelievable print that a client goes ga ga over.
Mick, I would be interested in seeing some of your high key work and perhaps learning more.
 
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Mick, I would be interested in seeing some of your high key work and perhaps learning more.
do start a thread
I have some vc filters arriving that fit the filter drawer. the ones that came with it are under the lens type, and it does not have the holder for those. found some to fit the drawer at very good cost, $25 so Im up to $45. no biggie. Will go through lots of paper and chemicals figuring it all out.