Methods to secure film or paper inside box?

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I tried to read as much as possible about pinhole setups, but I failed to catch the part about affixing film or paper inside the camera.

What are the main techniques, for various sizes?
 

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From what I've seen there's a fairly broad assortment of methods. Some depend on how quick and crude one is willing to be! A couple of my built-from-scratch cameras were designed around using standard filmholders -- the first was a 4x5, the second an 8x10. The holders are located by three sides of the "box" and held in against a foam light seal by large rubber bands stretched between pegs on the top and bottom of the camera.

Working with typical double weight printing paper or some sheet films, it's possible to have a curved film plane where the paper snaps in between stops at each side. That assumes one shot per box until a trip to the darkroom or changing bag. In cameras made with cylindrical cans, rolling the paper and inserting it to unwind against the can walls could be enough to keep it in place (generally we're not talking mil spec equipment to be shock and vibration resistant here ... ) One could also just tape the corners to a backing plate -- or even use double-sided tape on the back. Depending on the camera design, one might make a built-in holder by fastening two channels, each made of two strips of metal or plastic (or cardboard even), one wider than the other to a backing plate. The narrower strip would be spaced to just a bit over the paper/film width and the wider strip, mounted on top of that would extend enough to retain the edges of the paper/film.

Somebody here years back had a trick to make a sort of magazine load of multiple sheets but I'm not sure of the details (sounds a bit tricky). And there are various ways to implement roll film cameras, although that gets a little tricky implementing winding knob light seals.

A fair number of folks use a commercial camera and replace the lens with a pinhole to wind up with a fairly well-engineered solution. And of course, there are pinhole body caps for interchangeable lens cameras, and one could make a pinhole lens board for press or view cameras to achieve a similar result.

So there's a few -- we'll no doubt soon see some more!
 

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I used the cardboard method when I built a copy paper box pinhole. Super easy to make and use!
 

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I made a pinhole camera out of a small cigarillo box that was just about 4x5 at the base. I got some balsa wood strips (about 1/4" thick) from a hobby store and cut lengths that wedged in the box. I put the 4x5 film in and wedged the wood down over it at the short ends. You can cut it with a utility knife, and if it wears down and becomes loose, just cut yourself another piece.

Later I undercut a strip of balsa wood and glued it to the bottom of one end of the box to form a lip. This way I just slide the edge of the film under the lip and only need to wedge 1 piece of wood to hold it in place.
 

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I was thinking smaller film sizes, and most of the great ideas above revolve around a larger format, film holder idea.

But... even for the smaller size some rough, makeshift, holder, snap-in, or slide-in, would ease loading?
 

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I've built Pintoids and Gumpintoids (Altoids and Altoids gum tin cameras, respectively) with slip-in holders for a short strip of 35 mm or 120 width film, built out of layers of paperboard. There are also some videos on YouTube about building a 35 mm cassette to cassette pinhole camera from a small matchbox (for the small wooden matches). Pretty much tear it up to unload, though; the same thing could be run through an Altoids gum tin, I think, without destroying it (at least the actual dark chamber and frame mask portion) after a single roll.
 

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I tried to read as much as possible about pinhole setups, but I failed to catch the part about affixing film or paper inside the camera.

What are the main techniques, for various sizes?

I use 3M Re Mount spray glue, spray in the box bottom or in the paper, what you prefer. It works perfect !!! Totally convenient !
 
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