@awty I dig it. "atmospere" is a good term to apply. It's interesting that you pulled inspiration for a visual medium from a written(spoken) one. I really had to sit and think for a spell whether that had happened for me or not. I read a fair amount, so I feel like it must have but not recently. Wanting to echo/capture/outright steal the feeling from various scenes in movies however is a very frequent occurrence for me.
Clearly the trick is to grow a big bushy beard and talk a lot of BS.
Yet, from what I've read about Rubin's ideas here and elsewhere, and what I've read from your posts ... you two seem to agree? You just said, "Honestly think creative people just need the right environment to get their best and that will differ from person to person." -- and Rick Rubin is actually well known for doing exactly that.
I don't think it's all BS. Vacuous truism, maybe.
Johnny Cash was an extremely talented and creative person. Rick Rubin's a promoter.
Clearly the trick is to grow a big bushy beard and talk a lot of BS.
I really wanted to feel something.
My friends you missed my comment.
I truly believe that what makes a photograph memorable is the relationship of the photographer to subject.
As example I offer Steichen and Rodin.
Good friends. Steichen took a great photo of Rodin’s sculpture Balzac when it was being transported in a fog.
So my spirit broke when a sculptor friend of mine brought me his works to photograph.
I felt nothing.
But I knew I wanted to.
It’s the strangest feeling of my life.
The friend proved false, so it might be where the breakdown occurred.
I really wanted to feel something.
Returning to the Op's situation, here is an excellent example of photos that can be taken at a construction site. Of course, the site was the Millenium Dome in London, but similar details could be found at a smaller-scale site as well.
Depending on the year, it could have been the F-117 Stealth Fighter (a bomber, really). Or the F-22 later on.Those are great. In what seems like as past life, for quite a few years I worked for an engineering and construction company and quite regularly took my camera along and shot lots of film at various site. Most had something to do with piping and storage tanks. I’ve considered going back through the files and printing up a series.
There were only a few places I worked where cameras were definitely verboten. Hughes aircraft where they built satellites was one. I was installing a waste tank for their plating operations. And Skunk Works at Lockheed in Burbank where I was putting in a fuel system. On that one we were working late, after dark, to do a tie-in and security came over and made us stop and had us stand behind a building. All the lights went out and a plane of some kind came out of a hanger and took off in the darkness. Who knows?
Depending on the year, it could have been the F-117 Stealth Fighter (a bomber, really). Or the F-22 later on.
Most commercial photographers cannot afford to turn away jobs. That is part of being a professional: being able to deliver a good photograph no matter the circumstances. Of course, if one is a "celebrity" photographer with clients lined up all year, then one can pick and choose.It occurs to me that I (and possibly others) struggle with being a "hobbyist." Time that I can devote to photography gets shoehorned into my day or weekend when I can make it work. This leads to a worry that I am on a limited schedule and must make the pictures "count." Expanding upon that, sometimes I worry that I am photographing subjects that have been photographed before ad nauseum. I need to let this line of thinking die. The recent thread regarding Andre Kertesz is a fine example of one of many photographers who have made very interesting images out of very common dare I say mundane subjects. It can be done, and any time spent photographing should in theory help one's craft.
@Bill Burk That is an interesting conundrum you posted regarding your friend's sculpture. I wonder if Julius Schulman ever had to photograph a building he really didn't like?
Nothing worth doing is easy,
Well, lots of things worth doing are easy. Most things are, actually. Almost nothing anyone does is actually difficult.
Well, lots of things worth doing are easy. Most things are, actually. Almost nothing anyone does is actually difficult.
It depends on the individual. What came easily to HCB or Picasso may be incredibly difficult for someone else. I have witnessed folks labor over creative tasks with quite a bit of focus and intensity, only to come up with mediocre results.I know you like being provocative, but that is too obviously incorrect. Many things worth doing are incredibly difficult. And even things than can be done with ease are not necessarily worth doing at that level. Outstanding is always difficult.
I know you like being provocative, but that is too obviously incorrect. Many things worth doing are incredibly difficult. And even things than can be done with ease are not necessarily worth doing at that level. Outstanding is always difficult.
I doubt if it was at all easy for them to become established. I'm sure they worked tirelessly and were heavily focused to achieve there goals. Talents not everything, intact some less talented people have managed to convince others they are with a lot of hard work.What came easily to HCB or Picasso may be incredibly difficult for someone else.
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