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Will there be any distributors of this in Asia, or do I have to have it shipped from overseas if I want some? That may well be a deal-breaker for me.
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David,

we have a reseller in China and one company from Korea is also interested. But we have not yet settled a deal.

We are working on it. Any help from you and others (inquire with you dealers and ask them if they want to import it) is appreciated.

Best regards,

Mirko
 

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anybody have any reviews on it? im so close to getting a box as the old agfa paper was amazing.
 

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My experience is this:

Nice base hue - just a regular white.
Nice gloss when air dried, but a touch less glossy than MGWT
Subtle warmth to image. Very subtle (looks neautral at first glance) but visible next to MGIV which looks cold in comparison despite being neutral.
Great speed (1.5 stops faster than MGWT and about half a stop faster than MGIV).
Does not make the same contrast at the top end as the ilford papers.

Overall I prefer MGWT, largely for the better extreme contrast when I am struggling with a flat neg, but also for the slightly greater aparrent glow/gloss to the images. However, for large prints off 35mm this is an absolute winner as your exposure times remain sensible. Whereas MGWT seems to excel with somewhat flat negs where other papers lack the contrast, the MCC is cracking with high contrast negs where you do not need to work for good deep blacks.

When i re-stablish a darkroom after moving out of this property, this paper will be one of the three in my darkroom (MGQT, MGIV and MCC) giving neutral, warm neutral and warm. It replaces Kentmere fineprint (for me) for speed and has a less stark white base and better contrast.
 

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Tom Stanworth's thoughts echo my own. The paper is whiter but the image is slightly warmer (richer) than Ilford. I was struggling with some highlights on a couple prints last week and I agree with Tom that Multigrade is a little easier to transition the highlights while keeping the image snappy. I'm finding split-grade printing of 35mm negs to be easier with this paper. To me, tonal separation in the highlights is better with Ilford, but tonal separation in the lower tones is better with Adox MCC 110.

Overall, I like the paper so much that it has become the only FB paper in my darkroom right now. Print WA is my developer with this paper. About to crack open my fifth package of 11x14...

The richness of the lower tones are what really sets this paper apart. I like to have a good solid foot to my tonal range and this paper gives it to me without effort and without the mud.
 

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kauffman v36 said:
anybody have any reviews on it? im so close to getting a box as the old agfa paper was amazing.
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Holy cow! People have been raving about this paper
here on APUG ever since Adox shipped out test sheets
over a year ago. Go search if you want opinions.

In a nutshell: If you liked Agfa's MCC 111, you'll love
Adox's MCC 110. They are indistinguishable from each
other EXCEPT the Adox version has a very slightly whiter
paper base. You would not notice the difference unless
you had both papers side-by-side.

Agfa used to be my paper of choice. Now I print most
everything on the Adox MCC 110 version.
 

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I don't think it could be summed up any better than Sanders' post. If they would just stick the 8X10 in a 100/250 sheet box.
I also have to say I like the RC, MCP310 too.

These will be the only two papers I purchase going forward.

Good luck!

Mike
 

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I'd just like to say:

In a time of all digital, all the time, thanks for doing all the hard work and sticking it out to bring this paper back, ADOX, I am grateful - as I am sure others are.
 

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let me say that i have officially been converted to MC110 from MGIV after tonights printing session. i ordered a box of 25 8x10's last week and the first time i used the paper i wasnt too impressed. today when i saw images printed on MGIV, Arista, MC110, variotone, and MGWT, i have to say that MC110 is my favorite nuetral tone paper ive used. sure warmtone has its suits and its beautiful but for 90% of my printing mc110 is magnificent. it has a slight warm tone to it and next to MGIV it has a very nice warm tone to it and makes the MGIV look cold as ice.

on a side note, i was not impressed with the variotone warmtone paper. i printed the same image on all papers and the mc110, MGWT, and arista edu papers all appeared warmer than the VTWT, weird considering mc110 is nuetral and VTWT is warm. any suggestions?
 

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I've found VT Classic to be quite an excellent paper. MCC is of course, beautiful.
 

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I have been thinking about this one and I reckon that MCC will be back as my main go to paper with MGWT for when I need the additional warmth or contrast and MGIV for neutral tones and higher contrast. MCC just gives a great all round balance although I prefer the gloss and depth of MGWT by a small margin.
 

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BTW: Did Adox change the weight of MCC anywhere along the line? I recently cut down some 11x14 to 5x7s and during the process noticed that it definitely didn't feel like 250g - however FS states that it's a 250g double-weight base. Was this a recent change or was it always and now 180g?
 

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my pack of 25 sheet 8x10 MCC does not feel as thick as ilford MGIV but i figured its just me.
 

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I agree that it is not as thick but I think this paper is amazing. I think that I will use it exclusivly for a little while.
 

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just got my issue of the freestyle photo zine, article on MC110 is spot on. this paper rocks, i just wish i had it in 11x14 instead of having 150 sheets 11x14 of MGIV.
 

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About the only bad habit I've found with MC110 is the edge of the paper scalloping after it has dried. I didn't really notice it until I had a blank sheet of paper go through my process that I decided to use for focusing and framing in the easel. It wouldn't go in the catch slot on the easel. I don't recall ever having this problem with other papers to the same extent. I'd imagine this would also show up in the mounting process if you don't trim the edges of the paper first.

The second bad habit I've run into and it has caused me no end to grief, is that with the Print WA developer, there seems to come a point in developer exhaustion where one print is fine and the next is three stops under-exposed. Instead of a gentle slowdown in development, it seems to crash. Am I off my rocker on this one?
 

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I wouldn't say off your rocker, but if you are making several copies of a negative and there was a gradual fall off.....you might like the sudden change.

just 2 cents..

Mike
 

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"my pack of 25 sheet 8x10 MCC does not feel as thick as ilford MGIV but i figured its just me."

I recently had the opportunity to measure, after processsing, 12 different b/w papers currently available.

With a micrometer, the difference among papers was not more than .005 in.
 

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That doesn't say much. I can easily feel a significant difference between MCC, K-888, and ADOX FP Vario Classic.
 
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