Martin Parr doesn't care for film

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Are you familiar with Philip Lorca diCorcia's Heads series (and book I think)? That is telephoto street photography. I'm massively inspired by almost all work I've seen of his.
 

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I'm not sure if you're serious (or trolling). You should probably look Parr up. He knows how to use a camera.

I'm confused as to why you are comparing Parr and Wong? One is a working photographer the other is an youtube content creator.
 
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Interesting if you like comparing cameras. This is a side to photography (particularly digital) that has very little to do with actual photographs.
 

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Use a better P-mode, or use P-mode better. You know you can adjust within P?
 
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Again I'm not sure if you're serious. And I suggest you do some background.

Parr has published many books that remain in print, he works at cultural and sporting events throughout the year and his work is published via Magnum through major publications/journals/sites/papers etc. He's also recently just directed a series of idents for the BBC ... which I expect he didn't do for free.
 

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FWIW I think he shoots with his flash on manual. The light balance varies (between ambient and fill) but it always fires. The flash points up even outdoors.
 
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Dreadful and insulting assumption? That describes your comment perfectly.
 
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When I first saw Martin Parr's work in a Museum in San Francisco, I thought his images were prosaic. After looking deeper in his work, I've changed my mind. He documents modern humans with their obsessions with consuming and documenting themselves consuming with selfies. He also shows the less than glamorous side of the rich and famous with the supposed idyllic life. He's having fun documenting Eurotrash culture. Some artist embrace life in totality warts and all.
 

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I saw an exhibition of some his early work together with that of other British photographers of the time. The subject matter and the the original prints were wonderful. However, also included were many new prints which were inkjet and and too large for the resolution and the quality was terrible. I have seen good inkjet prints and these were not so was surprised that he must have been happy to display these alongside that sublime original work.
 

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Again I'm not sure if you're serious. And I suggest you do some background.

I was for the most part not being very serious, more tongue in cheek, but I could care less for forgone 'heros' like HCB, AA and the whole lot really, since success in this trade is based more often than not, on connections and background, usually a rich one, instead of raw talent.


You can't reach a younger audience with dry talking heads, it needs to be fun, to the point and cool, digitalRev and analogRev was just that. (not sure what is happening with the channel, as no new material has been posted in months.)
digitalRev has a lot of reviews and comparison, but if you had bother to look down the list, you see that they cover stuff that newcomers typically ask 100 times over. That, and Kai and Lok's shenanigans made the channel a youtube hit for any young person with an interest for photography, they have also covered analog photography and cameras.
 
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It's certainly true that Cartier-Bresson had access to a Leica and as much film as he desired compared to most of his contemporaries, but he explored the artistic potential of those tools brilliantly. He was of course a man of his time with some fairly stodgy likes and dislikes, including blackballing Martin Parr's Magnum membership. Fortunately he was in a minority. All professions and arts have a degree of nepotism and protectionism, but photography is one of the less ring fenced, especially since the internet, hence the popularity of YouTube "photographers" who are shills for manufacturers and retailers.

Kai is amusing in a bawdy kind of way, but he made his name as a front for an off shore box-shifting camera seller who wanted to appeal to a younger demographic. He'd probably admit his photography is limited. DigitalRev had a few interesting features like cheap camera challenge, but the majority of videos were concerned with commercial churn, not photographs. Since the demise of DR Kai seems to be a gun for hire, and will work for anyone who wants a slice of his ironic take on the camera market, including promoting professional video equipment that he's manifestly ill-equipped to assess.
 

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You can't reach a younger audience with dry talking heads, it needs to be fun, to the point and cool, digitalRev and analogRev was just that.

I largely disagree. I'm inspired most with lectures from or meetings with actual talent. If that's not possible then seeing copies of the work and reading/hearing from them as directly as possible. Critique is ok too.

DigitalRev was a camera channel, about cameras, not pictures.

I hope Kai does more content such as the Parr interview. That is worthwhile.

As for it being cool? ... how would we know ... perhaps the cool kids are over at the negativefeedback channel.
 
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Funny you should mention Turpin. I only became aware of these photos last month. I think they are beautiful. I realised I've seen a lot of work that probably imitates Turpin's.
i saw his work for the first time 5 mins ago !
( thanks blockend!)
 
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Some of Martin's earlier black and white work: Dead Link Removed

Check out the delightfully quirky and important publisher of unknown or forgotten 70s and 80s documentary photography: Dead Link Removed
 

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Of course there are different strokes for different folks, but some of you guys are so.... "funny". Sour grapes don't even describe it.
 
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The reason Parr was ground breaking is he took the colour work of people like Stephen Shore and William Eggleston - whose work was reviled by critics for eschewing the dominant monochrome aesthetic of "serious" photography - and gave it an ironic twist. All of those people stepped on the establishment's toes in different ways, and in doing so advanced photography as a medium. You can like Martin Parr's colour work or hate it, but to lack an understanding of its place in the history of photography is pure ignorance.
 
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