Manual loading of Canon eos50(e)/ElanII

sagai · Jun 8, 2015

Hello World,
I am wondering if anyone may know how to manually load EOS50(e)/ElanII?
I am looking at saving frames per canister with the manual load or any alternative approach rather than having the standard automatic loading of this camera.
I could not find any custom function to do so, someone may know ...
Many thanks
Kind Regards
Szabolcs

Ricardo Miranda · Jun 8, 2015

Sorry, there is no way.
Most AF cameras also have a built in motor drive and auto advance to frame 1.
The exception is the Minolta 9000. It still has an advance lever.

Get a manual focus mechanical camera or use bulk film in your EOS that's my suggestion if you want to save some money on film.

sagai · Jun 8, 2015

Thanks, I am a bit afraid you are right.
One hacking I have in my mind is to add some "leading" frames by gluing/sticking another 3-4 frames film parts to the negative to be exposed. Recently it takes far to many frames to get to the "first" one.
Thank you!

Ricardo Miranda · Jun 8, 2015

When the Nikon F4 was introduced it was said to draw less leader than any other automatic loading camera at that time.

Manwithacam · Jun 10, 2015

It is a waste of film. One or two of my EOS models wind the film on first and rewind it as it's used, to protect exposed film. I have noticed it initially go up to 25 or 26 and then rewind until 24 is showing. Maybe if I put tape over the DX code it wouldn't do that.

Ricardo Miranda · Jun 10, 2015

Yeap. As many EOS of that type also have the possibility of changing ISO manually, you can do that and just remember to set ISO before shooting.
Let us know how it goes.

tomfrh · Jun 10, 2015

sagai said:
Hello World,
I am wondering if anyone may know how to manually load EOS50(e)/ElanII?
I am looking at saving frames per canister with the manual load or any alternative approach rather than having the standard automatic loading of this camera.
I could not find any custom function to do so, someone may know ...
Many thanks
Kind Regards
Szabolcs

I wish I knew a way! I have an EOS 1V and EOS 30V and I find the hard limit of 36 a bit annoying. The old AE-1 I used to use gave 38 or so.

I have a Rebel and it gives you 37. interestingly it shoots the roll in the opposite order. It unwinds the whole roll at the start and then reels it back in as you shoot.

One custom function worth knowing is leaving the leader out when you rewind, that way it's easy to swap midroll. I haven't yet tried swapping rolls between the Rebel and the EOS. That could be tricky!

Tamara · Jun 10, 2015

This is one ding I noticed for the EOS-1N vs. the F5.

sagai · Jun 10, 2015

I will try to hack the leading with sticking plus 4 frames by the weekend ... See how it goes ...
... but than I loose 4 frames anyway [emoji2]

pentaxpete · Jun 10, 2015

I stick about 4 inches of old film onto the leader as mentioned above and get 39 or 40 frames out of my Pentax MZ-5 -- a small piece of 'sellotape' ( what it is called here in England -- translate for your own country) on both sides.

benjiboy · Jun 10, 2015

I can't believe that some people are so tight fisted over a couple of frames of film.

AgX · Jun 10, 2015

Ricardo Miranda said:
Get a manual focus mechanical camera or use bulk film in your EOS that's my suggestion if you want to save some money on film.

With bulk loading you also can get more frames into the Cassette.
But you would need a manual transport camera otherwise typically at 36 exposures the camera will rewind.

How do those motorized cameras where one can set-off the automated rewind react at ex.36 ?
Do they cancel further releasing? Or can one release further until film tension switches them off?

sagai · Jun 10, 2015

benjiboy said:
I can't believe that some people are so tight fisted over a couple of frames of film.

That's about 10 percent for a 36exps canister.
By that I can shoot one more canister per month for the same money. Also, I do not shoot portra or anything in that price range, mostly very budget or expired films those were bought on budget price.

The other perspective is we could save 10% of chemical sewage by that.

Tamara · Jun 10, 2015

benjiboy said:
I can't believe that some people are so tight fisted over a couple of frames of film.

For me, I just got tickled when I'd get the "bonus frames". It felt like I was getting away with something, like I was putting one over on The Man. Eventually I came to expect it, I guess, and so to have Robby the Robot shut the fun off automatically at the prescribed number on the canister gave me a sad.

Not enough to go taping stuff to stuff, mind you; if I just gotta shoot frame #37, I'll load up a camera that lets me do it.

rjbuzzclick · Jun 10, 2015

If you're using 24-frame film you could try changing the DX coding on the film can to read 36 frames with bit of scraping and tape. The camera should then rewind when it hits the end of the roll, or you can use the manual rewind button.

Manual loading of Canon eos50(e)/ElanII

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