Mamiya Six - which do I have?

[Roseha]

I've tried to figure this out by reading and watching multiple Youtube videos but I cannot figure out which version of the folding Mamiya Six I have. I bought this from an Ebay seller who posted nice images they had taken with it and described it as Mamiya Six Automat, Zuiko 7.5cm.

After initially misloading the pressure plate and trying again, I took a roll of 12 using the red window and pressing the little lever on the upper left when the film didn't seem to want to move. The roll came out and was spaced normally but none of the images looked sharp.

Then I thought Oh I have the automat and you have to wind to the little numbers on the upper left top. I did so for a whole roll, stopping when it reached each number on the wheel and got a bunch of overlapping photos, 8 instead of 12 and a lot of blank space on the roll. The negatives do appear sharper though from a quick look at them.

So can anyone tell me or guess, do I have an Automat? I will say that the shutter lever definitely does not cock automatically, I have to move it myself.

Thanks for any help!

 

[Melvin J Bramley]

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Yours is not an automat.
The automat has a self cocking shutter.
Looks nice tho!

 

[blee1996]

Yours is not Automat, since I have one and like Melvin said has the automatic shutter cocking.

Yours have the square rangefinder, so probably the model before Automat.

Your lens is the same as mine, and should produce sharp images when properly calibrated.

 

[Roseha]

Thanks everyone that is what I thought. However I see in some videos that I am supposed to wind to number one in the red window and then use the counter wheel on the upper left and the camera will adjust the framing?

Anyone have experience with this? I may run a spare roll through it to see if that works.