If you buy a nice old medium format camera you also should get a light meter.
Why waste money on a light meter when you can use the Sunny 16 Exposure Guideline?
You're sorry of forcing your views on others. I would never tell someone they shouldn't do something because I'm not a fan of it. When it comes down to it, using an app is no different than using a dedicated meter. It's preference. Some people might prefer having to haul less gear with them. I'd argue that when hiking, for example, using your smartphone makes more sense than adding more weight to your bag. Sometimes every ounce counts.Bumping this old thread because this annoys me
No...To me that's just wrong, sorry to say this. It's just off and wrong in every way. If you buy a nice old medium format camera you also should get a light meter.
Then you can use it the way it was used back in the 70's, 80's or whatever...Back in it's glory days. The way it was supposed to be used! The real deal!
And also...light meters are way cooler than phone appsEspecially the cheap ones with analog scales, old Weston meters and similar. They are just awesome!
Light meter phone apps are for wankers if I can use a somewhat rude expression. I mean no harmDon't go that way!
There are lots of cheap light meters for sale, and they are way better and way cooler than an app!
But just as there's more than one way to skin a cat, there's more than one way to create a photo.
Well it's called having an opinion. Starting to having a go at people for sharing theirs in the way the phrase their words is, in my humple opinion also wrong as long as it's not salty. I've never seeing anybody sane say they did something because some bloke on APUG told them to.You're sorry of forcing your views on others. I would never tell someone they shouldn't do something because I'm not a fan of it. When it comes down to it, using an app is no different than using a dedicated meter. It's preference. Some people might prefer having to haul less gear with them. I'd argue that when hiking, for example, using your smartphone makes more sense than adding more weight to your bag. Sometimes every ounce counts.
With the kind of argument you're introducing, there's no end. It's just wrong too use meters. It's way cooler to use sunny-16. It's wrong to use roll film. It's way cooler to use wet plates. That's how photography should be! Etcetera.
It's awesome that you have a passion for this art form. And it's fun to discuss passions and opinions. But just as there's more than one way to skin a cat, there's more than one way to create a photo.
Oh contraire!I've never seeing anybody sane say they did something because some bloke on APUG told them to.
I agree. But as far as I'm concerned, calling someone a wanker and saying what they're doing is wrong is not only FORCING YOUR OPINION, it's also pretty salty.Well it's called having an opinion. Starting to having a go at people for sharing theirs in the way the phrase their words is, in my humple opinion also wrong as long as it's not salty.
Bumping this old thread because this annoys me
There are lots of cheap light meters for sale, and they are way better and way cooler than an app!
Many have already stated the size difference in both, negative (somewhat important) and weight/bulkiness (more important). RB67 is a tool box that cannot be taken lightly. I have 2 of them and it is a fantastic camera, love the rotating back etc. But it is a bulldozer size outfit that is often a drag on opportunities, all depends on what you intend to shoot with it. It was long considered a gold standard in a studio, but field work is always a challenge due to size. Large format can actually be quite smaller and lighter.Excuse me for being a complete medium format novice here and asking what is no doubt a straight forward base knowledge question, but I am looking to get a medium format camera and have settled on the RB67 or 645 series Mamiyas.
But I can't seem to find a comparison of the two anywhere to make things clearer for me.
Whilst I'm new to medium format im definitely no novice to photography in general so I would like this camera to be an upgrade from 35mm rather than just an entry level MF.
I've been offered a 645 TL For £250, is that a good deal or should I hold out and try to go for a RB67 range, or better value 645 range??
Please help!
Between the Mamiya RB67 and the Mamiya 645 Pro TL, I would recommend the Hasselblad because of the better availability of parts, service, lens choices and ease of use.
All the same, Hasselblad has a history of mechanical problems, ...
Not true. Any camera can be screwed up by one not following the instructions.
I use this one, how is that for cool?
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Hand made in Belarus (from Ebay).
I hope someone one day will ask me, and i can tell them that it's a wooden lightmeter.
Haha... Speaking as someone who has a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, and recently got a Hasselblad 503cw, I definitely wouldn't agree on the "ease of use" part. The Mamiya actually has electronics that link the p-finder's meter to the camera's shutter, and has a shorter throw on the focus, which I feel actually do make the camera easier to use.Between the Mamiya RB67 and the Mamiya 645 Pro TL, I would recommend the Hasselblad because of the better availability of parts, service, lens choices and ease of use.
When you own a Hassy you are walking the red carpet of who is who in photography. If you don't, you can't take no picture, or so a hard core Hassy owner would have you believe. There are photos taken with a Hassy and there are the rest of them.Haha... Speaking as someone who has a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, and recently got a Hasselblad 503cw, I definitely wouldn't agree on the "ease of use" part. The Mamiya actually has electronics that link the p-finder's meter to the camera's shutter, and has a shorter throw on the focus, which I feel actually do make the camera easier to use.
(That being said, the Hasselblad probably does have better lens choices, options, and parts availability.)
I absolutely believe you didn't mean to be rude. And it's cool that you can man up and apologize. I'm not offended by weekday you said, but figured that maybe someone else could be. I actually prefer a standalone meter to a phone, but no issues with people using phones.Sorry if some of you got offended - Maybe I was a bit provocative with my reply. I sincerely apologize for that. I did not mean to be rude, and did not mean to force my opinion on anyone. It's just my opinion on light meters vs phone apps.
Cheers!
Hahahahaha!When you own a Hassy you are walking the red carpet of who is who in photography. If you don't, you can't take no picture, or so a hard core Hassy owner would have you believe. There are photos taken with a Hassy and there are the rest of them.
This is no lie, I used to have a rat in my old darkroom. I called him Hassy because he pooped all over my left-unattended images that were not shot with a Hassy. Since I never shot a single frame with a Hassy, it's not difficult to picture how many got pooped over. Sadly, Hassy passed away from food poisoning so I don't know if he would ever understand the problem with his behavior....
Hahahahaha!
I use this one, how is that for cool?
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Hand made in Belarus (from Ebay).
I hope someone one day will ask me, and i can tell them that it's a wooden lightmeter.
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