Mamiya C220 paper neg :)

tomalophicon · Jul 28, 2011

Hey guys, a while ago I posted to see if anyone had put paper into their RB67 Polaroid back. Well I tried it and it didn't work, so I borrowed a TLR and sticky taped some paper to the pressure plate, et viola!

Rick A · Jul 28, 2011

Nicely done! Is this a reversed scan or a scan of contact print?

tomalophicon · Jul 28, 2011

Rick, this is a scan of the negative. I couldn't be bothered doing anything more, just wanted to see if it could work.

bsdunek · Jul 28, 2011

That looks good! I've thought of putting print paper in the cut film holders for my Mamiya Press - you've got me inspired.

tomalophicon · Jul 28, 2011

Bruce, thanks.
I rated my paper at 3iso. I had to move my flash to within inches of the subject and fire it on full power. The lens is wide open. It's a 105mm f/3.5.

zsas · Jul 29, 2011

Very nice and dreamy photograph. Love any alt process!

ic-racer · Jul 29, 2011

This would be good to try out the Ilford positive paper.

tomalophicon · Jul 31, 2011

Yes it would be good. I'd like to make more exposures on paper. It' easier to use cut film holders on a view camera though.
Note, the sensitivity of the paper has rendered the oranges very dark.

removed account4 · Jul 31, 2011

very nice!
be careful, paper negatives can be very addictive !
john

tomalophicon · Jul 31, 2011

John, I'm sure there will be more to come.
Tom.

alessandro2011 · Aug 1, 2011

tomalophicon said:
I borrowed a TLR and sticky taped some paper to the pressure plate, et viola!

Do you think, perhaps on the future, if you have more time, for realize a step by step guide, for the procedure?

Note:
I think I will collect more information about paper negatives.

tomalophicon · Aug 1, 2011

alessandro, get some B+W printing paper. I got expired Ilford paper for free. Put it in the camera where the film sits, with some sticky tape. Take the picture and develop it in the darkroom.
Scan and invert the image.
Or contact print.

wblynch · Aug 1, 2011

I have a couple of questions about contact printing paper negatives.

First,do you put the negative, emulsion side up, on top of the print and just blast it with light? (how much does it take to get through the paper base?)

And second, doesn't the paper texture of the negative print through, leaving a fuzzy look on the print?

Thanks, Bill

tomalophicon · Aug 1, 2011

Bill, yes you do it as if you're contact printing a bit of film. I haven't recorded any of the times I've used to contact print paper, but it's a surprisingly small amount of time IRRC.

And yes it has some texture.

wblynch · Aug 1, 2011

Thanks tomalophicon,

I take it then, one should avoid using fiber paper for his negatives?

tomalophicon · Aug 1, 2011

Bill,
Using fibre would surely give you a certain look that would be pleasing if that's what your goal was.
Tom.

Andrew K · Aug 2, 2011

when you contact print a paper neg you put emulsion to emulsion..with RC paper I haven't had many problems with seeing the paper fibers. I've only used single weight fiber paper, and that was years aog. I think I ended up waxing the paper to make it more transperant..

removed account4 · Aug 2, 2011

you have to be careful with rc paper when making contact prints
because often times the maker puts a logo / writing on the back of the paper ...
and it will show through when you print ...

have fun !

john

tomalophicon · Aug 2, 2011

jnanian, which manufacturers do this? I've never come across it, other than colour paper.

steven_e007 · Aug 2, 2011

I've made roll films with paper.

Just cut a 60mm strip and roll it up in an old film backing. Because it is thicker than film, try maybe half the length (six shots).

Best is to position the start by the piece of tape... but don't tape it yet. Roll the film up - then tape it last. Otherwise you will get a kink or bubble.

I wouldn't stick it in a hassleblad film back - or anything that uses thickness sensing to give auto film spacing, but in rollfilm cameras with a red window it works OK.

I tested out Harman's direct positive paper this way.

removed account4 · Aug 2, 2011

tomalophicon said:
jnanian, which manufacturers do this? I've never come across it, other than colour paper.

some of the kodak papers used to have their name printed on the back
maybe none do this anymore ? its just something to watch out for if you
buy it on the used market ....
i usually use ilford rc if i am using rc, and luckily it doesn't have their name on
the reverse side

steven_e007 said:
I've made roll films with paper.

Just cut a 60mm strip and roll it up in an old film backing. Because it is thicker than film, try maybe half the length (six shots).

Best is to position the start by the piece of tape... but don't tape it yet. Roll the film up - then tape it last. Otherwise you will get a kink or bubble.

I wouldn't stick it in a hassleblad film back - or anything that uses thickness sensing to give auto film spacing, but in rollfilm cameras with a red window it works OK.

I tested out Harman's direct positive paper this way.

i roll my own 122 spools of paper .. and stick them in a post card camera
( 3a format graflex slr ) ... i cut 8x10 sheets of rc paper in half
and tape them end to end. i took a piece of 35mm film and taped it to the end
as a leader and rolled the paper onto the spool. i usually keep it rolled tight for a few
days before putting it in my the camera ... it works pretty well !
box cameras and coffee developers are great for paper negatives

have fun
john

ps you might get some useful information in the paper negative group here on apug

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

tomalophicon · Aug 2, 2011

John, I didn't know. I haven't been around long enough obviously!

removed account4 · Aug 2, 2011

tomalophicon said:
John, I didn't know. I haven't been around long enough obviously!

the groups don't get a lot of airplay because their feeds aren't in the main forum
so it is great to see active questions about similar-stuff in the main forum !
AND lots of people using great low-tech great image making tools

- john

Mamiya C220 paper neg :)

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