The orange mask just distorts the light toward red (no effect on the paper) and yellow (has an effect on the higher speed, blue sensitive portion of the paper emulsion that is used to build up contrast).I remember reading that if I set the color filters on my enlarger head to 60 Cyan and 50 Magenta it should help filter out the orange. Wonder if that would help with the orange mask of the film.
Plus you get a lot more control this way. In fact, I prefer scanning color film and printing digitally to RA4 printing (never tried C41 to silver gelatin). With a good scan, inkjet printer and paper, and some PS skills, I believe you can make a better looking print this way than in the darkroom. Of course, the downside is if you're going for the look of an RA4 or silver gelatin print, then inkjet just won't do that very well.In terms of cost it makes more sense to scan, turn into a black and white digital file and print on inkjet. I don't recall when Kodak stopped making panalure (sp?) a black and white paper designed for color negatives, the few times I used it I was not that impressed, just doable.
Exactly my experience.You can do it, but the contrast response is a bit strange, due to the colours in the negatives.
In addition, the orange mask can create a bit of a challenge, particularly with variable contrast paper.
But you will get usable images, and in many cases they will look close to normal, if you don't mind fairly low contrast results.
Color negatives have some special properties, which do not line up with what black&white paper expects:
This means your tones will be all over the place, and barely resemble the scene you saw.
I don't agree with this at all. I have printed C41 negs on MG paper quite a few times over the years. Yes, the tonal rendition is not what you would get using B&W film but there is no way I would agree that it is "all over the place" The only thing I would say is don't expect red to print as anything except near black. So don't print photos of cowboys with red shirts and MAGA hats holding a pack of Marlboro and drinking a can of coke.
If a motive contains important subject matter in red, then you can't really print it. Also, green turns to mush, so goodbye landscapes. This is my definition of "tones are all over the place", which still counts as very moderate position in the large scheme of photrio.com ("Rodinal 1:25 and 1:50 are completely different developers", "You should have developed 0:30 shorter", ...).I don't agree with this at all. I have printed C41 negs on MG paper quite a few times over the years. Yes, the tonal rendition is not what you would get using B&W film but there is no way I would agree that it is "all over the place" The only thing I would say is don't expect red to print as anything except near black. So don't print photos of cowboys with red shirts and MAGA hats holding a pack of Marlboro and drinking a can of coke.
Yep, interpositive. This would be my plan if I ever went this route again. Note, that you have to use panchromatic material for this interpositive.Would creating an internegative (or rather, interpositive) on B&W film prior to printing be of any value here? (no idea, just asking out of curiosity)
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