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Macro tools calculations

Folks, in post #12 above I gave a link to info about a Canon EF mount lens that will do exactly what the OP wants.
Thanks. I have looked at the MP-E (manual focus) but it has been discontinued by Canon.
 

Thanks, the Novoflex bellows are something I did consider. I do not need to reverse-mount, nor to necessarily reach 5x (5x would be ideal, but may be impossible(.
The one limitation for me is that I already have the camera mounted to (manual) rail, and the Novoflex bellows rail would potentially prevent my attaching the bellows to the camera. To be tested..
Novoflex does have a reverse mount that carries AF and other info btw.
 

Which formulae do you use for that? I have googled many websites about lens calculations, but they mostly talk about normal working distances, rarely macro.
 
For an optical system composed of a subject, lens, and the projected image, if we know the subject distance s, and magnification m, then the focal length is

f = ms/(m + 1)

and the image distance is

i = (m + 1)f

This works for any optical system, standard distances and macro.
 
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Thanks. I have looked at the MP-E (manual focus) but it has been discontinued by Canon.

That lens will get you to about M = 0.35 at a working distance of 250mm. And it has no autofocus. So pretty far from your targets.
 
The one limitation for me is that I already have the camera mounted to (manual) rail, and the Novoflex bellows rail would potentially prevent my attaching the bellows to the camera. To be tested..

There are worse punishments than starting over.