Lunar eclipse

RalphLambrecht · Apr 12, 2014

Doeas anyone have an exposure recommendation to shoot a series of the lunar eclipse in two days?:confused:
I did some tests on the full moon and ended up at 1/60s at f/8 with ISO200. any experience suggesting otherwise?

removed account4 · Apr 12, 2014

hi ralph
i have never done it, i think the general rule is
"use sunny 11 ( or sunny 16 )"?

have fun !
john

ps saturn and neptune are DIRECT
and no worries about merc going retrograde for a while,
i think i read

pbromaghin · Apr 13, 2014

So Ralph says 4 stops and John says one stop. Stay tuned...

jcc · Apr 13, 2014

ISO 200, f/8 @ 1/125s for full moon has worked for me in the past. But it's an eclipse, so it'll need some compensation. I was going to look through my notes from the last lunar eclipse. Will post when I find what setting I used.

Just don't use B&W film.

removed account4 · Apr 13, 2014

pbromaghin said:
So Ralph says 4 stops and John says one stop. Stay tuned...

hehe
i've never done it !
i'm just parroting what i read someone else
suggest ..

i am admittedly CLUELESS

mopar_guy · Apr 13, 2014

I believe that when the Apollo 8 crew made the "Earthrise" shot, the exposure was 1/250 and f 11 on Ektachrome.

Jim Jones · Apr 13, 2014

Consider this: the surface of the moon is rather darker than most earth scenes, but we perceive the moon to be brighter. Therefore, the full moon requires more exposure than sunny sixteen recommends, at least one stop and perhaps two or three more stops, depending on taste. When photographing a fairly rare event, bracket. As a lunar eclipse progresses, the brightness of the moon varies tremendously. Exposure recommendations for lunar eclipses have been posted online. They provide a starting point for bracketing.

Bill Burk · Apr 13, 2014

I haven't the foggiest.

I mean, I can't answer with test results because it's going to be foggy here.

Ralph,

Listen to Jim Jones, because your test exposures for the moon are only valid up to the last crescent of white.

During the phase when the moon is red it is much darker.

markbarendt · Apr 13, 2014

IME the fully lit moon photographs well at sunny 16.

The moon in eclipse though will be much darker, IDK.

With negative roll film I'd start by opening up maybe 4-stops from sunny 16 to start and then bracket by opening another 2-stops each for another 3 frames from there.

DOF isn't typically an issue because we are normally way past the hyper focal distance for most any lens at any aperture, unless you are attached to a telescope. So I'd focus at infinity and set aperture wide open because the moon is in motion, time is a real issue.

NedL · Apr 13, 2014

Bill Burk said:
I haven't the foggiest.

I mean, I can't answer with test results because it's going to be foggy here.

The same, I think we live nearby. If it's not foggy I'll take my daughter outside to have a look, but I'm not planning to photograph it. I think good lunar eclipse photos perhaps need it to be low in the sky, with color film and a long-ish lens to get some earthbound interest into the frame.... This one will be almost as high as it can be in California... it crosses the meridian about 1/2 hour after reaching full moon....

removed account4 · Apr 13, 2014

markbarendt said:
IME the fully lit moon photographs well at sunny 16.

The moon in eclipse though will be much darker, IDK.

With negative roll film I'd start by opening up maybe 4-stops from sunny 16 to start and then bracket by opening another 2-stops each for another 3 frames from there.

DOF isn't typically an issue because we are normally way past the hyper focal distance for most any lens at any aperture, unless you are attached to a telescope. So I'd focus at infinity and set aperture wide open because the moon is in motion, time is a real issue.

ahhh there you go .. FULL moon at sunny16
i don't feel like such a dope now

markbarendt · Apr 13, 2014

jnanian said:
ahhh there you go .. FULL moon at sunny16
i don't feel like such a dope now

David A. Goldfarb · Apr 13, 2014

The full moon at "moony 11" has worked for me (f:11 at 1/ISO), but the eclipsed moon will be much darker of course. If you're shooting it as a series, the trick will be to keep eclipsed moon visible without overexposing the illuminated moon.

konakoa · Apr 13, 2014

Ralph, there is a world of difference (pun intended) between the sunlit moon and when the moon is in the Earth's shadow. Everything you'd want to know and more here: http://www.mreclipse.com/LEphoto/LEphoto.html The information is quite good. The last eclipse I photographed using those exposure recommendations came out perfect.

resummerfield · Apr 13, 2014

konakoa said:
....Everything you'd want to know and more here: http://www.mreclipse.com/LEphoto/LEphoto.html The information is quite good. The last eclipse I photographed using those exposure recommendations came out perfect.

I agree! Wonderful site!

RalphLambrecht · Apr 13, 2014

what did AAdo for moonrise over Hernandez again?

markbarendt · Apr 13, 2014

RalphLambrecht said:
what did AAdo for moonrise over Hernandez again?

Mess up the exposure?

mopar_guy · Apr 13, 2014

RalphLambrecht said:
what did AAdo for moonrise over Hernandez again?

I thought that AA's Moonrise negative was very difficult to print.

Here is some more info: http://www.hcc.commnet.edu/artmuseum/anseladams/details/moonrise.html

mopar_guy · Apr 13, 2014

I wish that this was easier

I just wanted to figure out what time that this is happening from the following: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEplot/LEplot2001/LE2014Apr15T.pdf

I guess that I"ll have to find my old HP calculator...
And brush up on my Calculus...
And go back to college for a couple more years...

Maybe I could just try to Google up "Eclipses for Dummies".

markbarendt · Apr 13, 2014

Try this Mopar_guy http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/LunarEclipse.php

mopar_guy · Apr 13, 2014

markbarendt said:
Try this Mopar_guy http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/LunarEclipse.php

Thank you.

My plan "B" was to wait until Monday and look to see if Yahoo had a lame article.

mopar_guy · Apr 13, 2014

Here in Western Washington it is forecast to rain.

NedL · Apr 14, 2014

Fog is starting to roll in here... was going to wake up my daughter at midnight to see it but it's not looking very promising.

This is the first eclipse in a tetrad of 4 that will happen about 6 months apart. The last one, in September 2015 will be dramatic here on the West coast of the US, reaching totality about 13 minutes after moonrise... it will only be 2 degrees above the horizon as it becomes a total eclipse and it's going to be a truly spectacular moonrise. That one is worth planning in advance good positioning for dramatic a "big moon" photo!

Then in 2017 we will have a total eclipse of the sun.... I've already started planning for that!

Tom1956 · Apr 14, 2014

mopar_guy said:
Thank you.

My plan "B" was to wait until Monday and look to see if Yahoo had a lame article.

"If Yahoo had a lame article"--that's rich.How can you tell?

Kevin Caulfield · Apr 14, 2014

NedL said:
Then in 2017 we will have a total eclipse of the sun.... I've already started planning for that!

You're organised. I haven't even planned anything for dinner tonight.

We will watch the eclipse from the upstairs windows. We should have a great view. The sky should be clear. I don't think I'll shoot it on film, but will probably take some video.

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