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Hey,

as research for a small article I'm working on right now I am looking for old catalogs from Rolyn Optics Company, a major distributor of lenses and optical components for industry needs in the US for decades. While the company is no longer around, I really hope that some of their catalogs or price lists might have survived or may even be available in digital format.

So far I was only able to find a single one of those catalogs, which is from the year 1981. (Thanks a lot to Dan Fromm for the help on that!)

If you have any of those catalogs from Rolyn Optics or some of the alternative distributors of lenses for industry from the past (I'm particularly looking for material from after WWII, but anything earlier might be quite interesting as well) I'd really appreciate any help!

Thank you very much!

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Thanks - I'll give it a look and see if there has been anything added I haven't checked out before. I'm located in Europe though and most of those are in the US - so with added shipping it's unreasonable to buy those usually.
 

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I don't have any leads, a few suggestions:
- I'm not really sure what you want (listings of optics? prices of lenses?) - there are/were a number of these companies, like Melles Griot, Edmund, Newport, Ross, Thorlabs, so if you broaden the search you might get more hits.
- Ask on an astrophotography forum. Somebody who has been around optics for a long time might have kept such catalogs.
- If you are near a major research university, try circulating your request in appropriate departments (if they have an optical sciences or optical engineering department, great, otherwise you could ask around the physics or engineering departments). Sometimes there's old catalogs and literature on a shelf in somebody's lab for decades, until they need the space or move and it gets discarded.
 
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I don't have any leads, a few suggestions:
- I'm not really sure what you want (listings of optics? prices of lenses?) - there are/were a number of these companies, like Melles Griot, Edmund, Newport, Ross, Thorlabs, so if you broaden the search you might get more hits.
- Ask on an astrophotography forum. Somebody who has been around optics for a long time might have kept such catalogs.
- If you are near a major research university, try circulating your request in appropriate departments (if they have an optical sciences or optical engineering department, great, otherwise you could ask around the physics or engineering departments). Sometimes there's old catalogs and literature on a shelf in somebody's lab for decades, until they need the space or move and it gets discarded.

Thanks a lot for the response and the suggestions!

Yes, listing of complete lenses (not lens elements or other parts) and prices would be great as well.

I know Melles Griot, Edmund and Thorlabs... the other two are new to me - thanks for that. Has anyone of those been around for a significant amount of time? I always thought those were current companies without a very long history. What I'm looking for is mainly lenses from 1960-1990... I'll look around though if I can find anything on the ones mentioned.

Astrophotography is a great tip... many thanks! Not sure if there's a lot of overlap in terms of the catalogs but I'm convinced people in that field might have a lot of DIY experience in terms of assembling lenses/devices and the sources.

Unfortunately I'm not near a university, but I might be able to ask some friends if they know anyone in that field.
 

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I'm still not really sure what information you are trying to glean from these catalogs ... prices for complete lenses? I don't really know what kind of complex lenses they would have been selling as off the shelf products, perhaps TV/video lenses and so on. Many of these companies sold "things that you would put on an optical bench" including simple lenses, mirrors, polarizers, mounts, positionable stages, etc, and they also sold "things that industrial companies buy by the thousand" eg fiber optics, coupling lenses, etc.

Keep in mind that there is continuous consolidation and churn in this segment. Toward the end of Ilex, Melles Griot bought Ilex's shutter business and maybe optics, and a while ago some other company swallowed Melles Griot. Newport has been around since maybe the late 60s but some other company owns it now. Newport sells more or less every piece of stuff you might see in an optics lab, their paper catalog (don't know if they still print it) was the size of a telephone book, when phone books were large.
 

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red, Rolyn sold the full range of Boyer taking, process and enlarging lenses. Also Friedrich enlarging (?) lenses. I think the OP is looking for information about the latter.
 
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I'm still not really sure what information you are trying to glean from these catalogs ... prices for complete lenses? I don't really know what kind of complex lenses they would have been selling as off the shelf products, perhaps TV/video lenses and so on. Many of these companies sold "things that you would put on an optical bench" including simple lenses, mirrors, polarizers, mounts, positionable stages, etc, and they also sold "things that industrial companies buy by the thousand" eg fiber optics, coupling lenses, etc.

Keep in mind that there is continuous consolidation and churn in this segment. Toward the end of Ilex, Melles Griot bought Ilex's shutter business and maybe optics, and a while ago some other company swallowed Melles Griot. Newport has been around since maybe the late 60s but some other company owns it now. Newport sells more or less every piece of stuff you might see in an optics lab, their paper catalog (don't know if they still print it) was the size of a telephone book, when phone books were large.

As Dan mentioned below, I'm interested in the lenses, which focal lengths and mounts they were available in, which applications they were intended for, the lens designs and (if possible) the prices as well. I'm helping assemble the biggest database for alt lenses (enlarging, repro, projection, industrial and other specialized lenses):

It's available already at www.deltalenses.com

Because of the enormous amount of work and research required it's of course still a work-in-progress, but it already contains lots of information.

Apart from a mere data-collection it's also an attempt to bring together people who are interested in adapting those types of lenses to whatever format and to share their experiences, images and knowledge, if they want. One of my main interests is to provide a deeper dive into a couple of (mostly unknown or underrated) lenses/lens families/manufacturers in the form of some articles. The first one (on Agfa) is not finished yet, because it got significantly bigger in scope along the way, but here are the three parts, if you're interested to take a look:

Agfa-Gevaert: Introduction
Agfa-Gevaert: Enlarger Lenses
Agfa-Gevaert: Industrial Lenses

Agfa-Gevaert: Projector Lenses

Thank you very much for sharing your take on those companies - I know that lots of them went belly-up along the way and of course there might be a lot of dead ends along the way, but so far it has been worth it to try most of the times. The range of Boyer lenses + some Rodenstock, Wray and Friedrich optics is certainly interesting enough for what I'm after.

red, Rolyn sold the full range of Boyer taking, process and enlarging lenses. Also Friedrich enlarging (?) lenses. I think the OP is looking for information about the latter.

Indeed - but not exclusively. There are a couple of manufacturers I'm interested in. C. Friedrich just happens to be among the least documented, because it was mostly insignificant in size. Doesn't always mean a lot in terms of quality though! It's quite impressive to see what some of the french manufacturers like Boyer, Angenieux and Som Berthiot produced and how those lenses still provide interesting results. I met someone on flickr who almost uses french lenses exclusively and I'm amazed by the variety there is.

Thanks again to you and Eric Beltrando for your great contributions in preserving a lot of this information!
 
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