A London Technique 4x5 Field camera. It needs a new bellows. It comes with a Schneider Xenar 135mm lens. It is an all metal 4x5 camera very rugged. It has great bellows extension, once you get a new bellows. Has a fold out ground glass shade. $200.00 + shipping costs.
For Sale London Technique 4x5 Field Camera $200.00 + Shipping Cost
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Love it, reminds me of my Meridian 45. If it is still around on pay day.........grab it if you can, I really don't need it, just want to use it a little while.
It's actually an MPP but I'm not surev what model.
Ian
Ian
egads... what a beaut!
Is the bellows that bad? I don't see any obvious tears or anything. Pinholes can be patched much easier than replacing the whole thing.
The MPP is a clone of the Technika, correct? Which Tech is this like? Does it use the same boards?
The MPP is a clone of the Technika, correct? Which Tech is this like? Does it use the same boards?
okay it is a Micro-Techon London model. I patched the bellows with black tape and it was okay last time I tested it. But who knows if its okay now.
I patched my Tech III with so many patches of gaffer's tape, it's more tape than leather, but it works fine. 
Actually that's not true, but there are more than a half dozen bits of tape here and there.
Actually that's not true, but there are more than a half dozen bits of tape here and there.
They were based around the WII Tech's but then evolved but they aren't exact clones. After WWII theBritish Government helped/encourage companies to use German technology as part of War reparations Taylor Taylor Hobson set up Reid to make Leica copies, MPP made cameras based on Lihnof and Rolleicord/flex models.
This is a later model I think a Red MicroTechnical MkV11 so has evolved away from the Linhof's compared to the first versions, MPP's use their own lens boards, they use a cone for WA's (not recessed) so the standard remains on the rear rail.
If I had spare cash I'd snap this camera up immediately, it would sell for at least $600 in the UK and as it has a lens maybe go for $800 (£500) or more.
Ian
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Very cool...
Ok, for those of us interested in trying out LF (have been at 645 format for quite sometime), and are thus otherwise a neophyte, does this camera actually require a new bellows or would patching be just fine. I'm pretty good mechanically, is replacing bellows a deal or not so hard to do? Another newbie question, what about film holders or whatever it uses...are they needed, does it have 'em, and even dumber question to those of you with experience: how many unexposed negatives do you generally carry when out making photos?
I'm interested as this sounds like a low-budget way to get into LF. I've researched enough to figure out that a "field camera" is what would match my interests, but I'm still "gun shy" (so to speak).
thanks!
Todd
Ok, for those of us interested in trying out LF (have been at 645 format for quite sometime), and are thus otherwise a neophyte, does this camera actually require a new bellows or would patching be just fine. I'm pretty good mechanically, is replacing bellows a deal or not so hard to do? Another newbie question, what about film holders or whatever it uses...are they needed, does it have 'em, and even dumber question to those of you with experience: how many unexposed negatives do you generally carry when out making photos?
I'm interested as this sounds like a low-budget way to get into LF. I've researched enough to figure out that a "field camera" is what would match my interests, but I'm still "gun shy" (so to speak).
thanks!
Todd
The camera takes standard 4x5 film holders that take 2 sheets per holder. You should be able to pick up these on here real easy and as many as you want. Fixing the bellows is possible. Replacing it is a matter of some screws if you can find one that will fit. Yes it a cheap was to get into 4x5. Let me know. Send me an email at edward@amindseye.com
What he said about film holders - you can still buy them new but can get good ones used much, much cheaper.
You can also get Grafmatic holders with a bit of watching and waiting, that let you carry and rapidly (well, fairly rapidly, for 4x5) six sheets in barely more space than a standard double holder. I just picked one up to augment the 11 holders I have. That's almost an embarrassment of holders - 22 sheets in holders and six in the Grafmatic. You will probably shoot FAR fewer shots in LF. I sometimes go out and don't expose a film at all. On a busy day I might shoot 5 or 6 shots, though some people do shoot quite a bit more. It's still nothing like banging away with 35mm or MF though.
I generally carry six holders with 12 sheets of film, but I haven't used the Grafmatic yet. I'll usually load those with 8 black and white and 4 sheets of color, or sometimes two different kinds of black and white to suit mood and subject. I have never, ever, run out of film while out shooting, though I have left holders back at the hotel and headed back to swap out mostly exposed one for those loaded with unexposed film.
I'd have to see the bellows in person to have an opinion on it. What I do and is usually recommended is put the camera in a dark room, extend the standards all the way out for maximum bellows extension and remove the lensboard. Then I put a little maglight flashlight with the lens removed, so it's just a bare bulb, down inside the camera/bellows and look all around for leaks. You'll often find them in the corners. These can be patched several ways - gaffer's tape or that goopy plastic rubber repair stuff being the most common. If it's just some in the corners, that's fine, just patch them. Serious tears or a large number of pinholes usually warrant replacement. Mine is old and has probably more than a half dozen bits of gaffer's tape on it - works fine. It's not rocket science, just has to be light tight.
There are people who make replacement bellows, even custom ones, but I don't know much about that.
I asked about the boards because I'd like to replace my Tech III soon-ish but with my wedding coming up end of this month I don't want to spend for a camera now, as I'll spend over $1000 when I do, all in. But for $200 I'd be tempted, if I could use my current boards, or easily get boards and get my lenses mounted. One of the few drawbacks to a Tech III as a cheap intro camera is that the boards are not the same as later Techs and are hard to find (though they can be made easily enough if you're handy with tools - I'm not.)
If you're serious about getting into LF check out the LF home page with lots of info:
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/
You can also get Grafmatic holders with a bit of watching and waiting, that let you carry and rapidly (well, fairly rapidly, for 4x5) six sheets in barely more space than a standard double holder. I just picked one up to augment the 11 holders I have. That's almost an embarrassment of holders - 22 sheets in holders and six in the Grafmatic. You will probably shoot FAR fewer shots in LF. I sometimes go out and don't expose a film at all. On a busy day I might shoot 5 or 6 shots, though some people do shoot quite a bit more. It's still nothing like banging away with 35mm or MF though.
I generally carry six holders with 12 sheets of film, but I haven't used the Grafmatic yet. I'll usually load those with 8 black and white and 4 sheets of color, or sometimes two different kinds of black and white to suit mood and subject. I have never, ever, run out of film while out shooting, though I have left holders back at the hotel and headed back to swap out mostly exposed one for those loaded with unexposed film.
I'd have to see the bellows in person to have an opinion on it. What I do and is usually recommended is put the camera in a dark room, extend the standards all the way out for maximum bellows extension and remove the lensboard. Then I put a little maglight flashlight with the lens removed, so it's just a bare bulb, down inside the camera/bellows and look all around for leaks. You'll often find them in the corners. These can be patched several ways - gaffer's tape or that goopy plastic rubber repair stuff being the most common. If it's just some in the corners, that's fine, just patch them. Serious tears or a large number of pinholes usually warrant replacement. Mine is old and has probably more than a half dozen bits of gaffer's tape on it - works fine. It's not rocket science, just has to be light tight.
There are people who make replacement bellows, even custom ones, but I don't know much about that.
I asked about the boards because I'd like to replace my Tech III soon-ish but with my wedding coming up end of this month I don't want to spend for a camera now, as I'll spend over $1000 when I do, all in. But for $200 I'd be tempted, if I could use my current boards, or easily get boards and get my lenses mounted. One of the few drawbacks to a Tech III as a cheap intro camera is that the boards are not the same as later Techs and are hard to find (though they can be made easily enough if you're handy with tools - I'm not.)
If you're serious about getting into LF check out the LF home page with lots of info:
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/
Oh yes - I have the identical lens, that 135mm Xenar. It's a decent lens to get you started, moderately wide on 4x5. Not much coverage for movements but it's bright and easy to focus and results when stopped down will be just fine. 
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