Logic of Rolleiflex "K" designations?

Theo Sulphate · Dec 18, 2016

Looking at this site,

http://www.rolleiclub.com/cameras/tlr/info/index.shtml

specifically the link to A-F models, I'm trying to understand the K designations.

For example, I have a 2.8D from 1955 which is a K7D. But my 3.5F Model 2 from 1960 is a K4E. I don't understand the reasoning behind these designations.

Additionally, I don't understand why Automat models are different, since these models also have automatic frame 1 advance. Likewise, why is the MX-EVS singled out among aficionados, since my D model also allows selective engagement of the EVS settings?

ic-racer · Dec 18, 2016

The Arthur Evans Rolleiflex Collector's Guide does not use those "K" designations. I'm not sure from where they originated. British fascination with taxonomy?

elcabezagrande · Dec 18, 2016

K4 are all f3.5, K7 are f2.8. T is K8, and K5 was used for the post-war 4x4. K1 and K2 Rolleiflex Standard, K3 Rolleicord. The original 4x4 does not have a K code, it seems.

elcabezagrande · Dec 18, 2016

The MX-EVS is singled out because of the linked aperture and shutter dials, allowing for easy use of the EVS system with a compatible light meter.

Theo Sulphate · Dec 18, 2016

elcabezagrande said:
The MX-EVS is singled out because of the linked aperture and shutter dials, allowing for easy use of the EVS system with a compatible light meter.

Thank you for all the info above.

But my 2.8D has the same system, right? With it, I can choose to link or unlink the shutter and aperture for a given EV.

choiliefan · Dec 18, 2016

The later E3 cameras also have the EV lock but in an F body. I believe the E3's are the best of the Rolleis but harder to find.

elcabezagrande · Dec 18, 2016

Theo Sulphate said:
Thank you for all the info above.

But my 2.8D has the same system, right? With it, I can choose to link or unlink the shutter and aperture for a given EV.

The 2.8D is the Planar/Xenotar equivalent of the MX-EVS. The MX-EVS is usually thought of as the cream of the crop of the Tessar/Xenar models, I don't think many would choose it over a Planar or Xenotar, either 3.5 or 2.8...but...my MX-EVS Tessar is freakishly sharp. I think, besides what has already been mentioned, part of its allure has to do with it being the last/newest of the "classic" Automats, and it is much easier to find one in good condition, and to have serviced. But the recent popularity of Vivian Maier has now made the T the one with the growing cult status.

Theo Sulphate · Dec 19, 2016

Great information, thank you.

Given the continuing interest in Rolleiflex TLRs, it's a bit amazing to realize Rolleiflex popularity and production had peaked by the 1960's.

RolleiPollei · Dec 20, 2016

I have two Rolleiflex cameras now a 1956 MX-EVS k4b and a 1959 2.8e. Both have the same system where you can lock the wheels together to keep the same exposure value. I don't think the f models have that feature so it must have been dropped in the early 1960's.

elcabezagrande · Dec 20, 2016

RolleiPollei said:
I have two Rolleiflex cameras now a 1956 MX-EVS k4b and a 1959 2.8e. Both have the same system where you can lock the wheels together to keep the same exposure value. I don't think the f models have that feature so it must have been dropped in the early 1960's.

It became redundant on the metered cameras. If they made the on-camera meters use the EV system, rather than match-needle, it would have made sense to keep it.

Harry Stevens · Dec 21, 2016

Theo Sulphate said:
Great information, thank you.

Given the continuing interest in Rolleiflex TLRs, it's a bit amazing to realize Rolleiflex popularity and production had peaked by the 1960's.

Probaly the rise of the SLR.
I wanted one in 1978 but could not afford one, I bought a Lubitel new for £11.00 and threw it in the bin after one film. Still I got Rolleiflex last year to go with my Rolleicord VA and often think what could I get for the £100.00 in the Digital world.
Amazing how much some Digital only dealers will let analogue cameras go for.

JPD · Dec 23, 2016

They never had the "K" names officially. Those were only internal designations used at the factory. It wouldn't surprise me if "K" stood for "Kamera". It's better to use the official names (and "type 1, 2" when needed).

Logic of Rolleiflex "K" designations?

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