hudsonvalleygiclee
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I have frequented this site on and off for information and have posted very little. I am going out on a limb by posting this, but I will anyway. Before I go on, I really don't want to hear any of the "its impossibles" or "dont waste your times." If all else fails, I have learned something.
My knowledge of film photography is extremely limited. I recently took a trip to Rochester NY and went to the Eastman House. My interest was to see the first color photograph of a landscape; taken by Louis Ducos du Hauron in 1877. I wasnt able to see it in the main gallery and set up a meeting with the head Archivist. I did so and was able to see the photograph first hand, among others.
A 19th century process specialist was so kind to discuss all he knew of the processes of the time. He went on to talk to me about numerous process including the Lippmann process. Since he talked to me, I have been on a knowledge hunt to discover more.
This is what I know about the process (provided by Mark the Specialist):
Lippmann plates are still the only natural color photograph and they are permanent.
The image is virtual since it relies on viewing with full spectrum light to see the colors.
The plates are made on glass using a panchromatic emulsion that is very thin.
The plates are held in a special plate holder that allows the light entering the camera to go through the glass support first, then through the thin emulsion. The holder is also designed to hold liquid mercury in contact with the surface of the emulsion.
During the exposure the light exposing the emulsion reflects off the mercury interface and then exposes the emulsion a second time 1/2 wavelength from the first, causing an interference effect on the emulsion.
After the exposure the mercury is drained from the holder and the plate removed.
When the plates are processed (conventional black and white chemistry) the final image looks like a negative, but when placed against a prism and illuminated with natural light...the image can be seen in natural colors...not by pigments or dyes...but by the natural spectral colors.
That is what I know. I want to know more. So here are some questions to you, the APUG community:
What is panchromatic emulsion and how thin is thin?
The plate holder explained above, how does one believe it was designed.
It was stated the emulsion was in contact with Mercury. Is the mecury separated from the emulsion by a pane of glass (that would allow you to photograph horizontally). If so, would a glass or plexiglass casing prevent or slow down light as it passes through, enough to thwart the process from working?
Any links about b/w developing chemistry would be great.
Again, please realize I am here on a novice level trying to weave through all of your minds to learn something. I am twenty four years old, own/operate a fine arts printing business, and use digital photography for many reasons from fine art work capture to model work to personal fine arts. I consider myself a professional and I want to learn more about the processes of yesteryear. Any links, books (reading material), words of advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who can assist.
My knowledge of film photography is extremely limited. I recently took a trip to Rochester NY and went to the Eastman House. My interest was to see the first color photograph of a landscape; taken by Louis Ducos du Hauron in 1877. I wasnt able to see it in the main gallery and set up a meeting with the head Archivist. I did so and was able to see the photograph first hand, among others.
A 19th century process specialist was so kind to discuss all he knew of the processes of the time. He went on to talk to me about numerous process including the Lippmann process. Since he talked to me, I have been on a knowledge hunt to discover more.
This is what I know about the process (provided by Mark the Specialist):
Lippmann plates are still the only natural color photograph and they are permanent.
The image is virtual since it relies on viewing with full spectrum light to see the colors.
The plates are made on glass using a panchromatic emulsion that is very thin.
The plates are held in a special plate holder that allows the light entering the camera to go through the glass support first, then through the thin emulsion. The holder is also designed to hold liquid mercury in contact with the surface of the emulsion.
During the exposure the light exposing the emulsion reflects off the mercury interface and then exposes the emulsion a second time 1/2 wavelength from the first, causing an interference effect on the emulsion.
After the exposure the mercury is drained from the holder and the plate removed.
When the plates are processed (conventional black and white chemistry) the final image looks like a negative, but when placed against a prism and illuminated with natural light...the image can be seen in natural colors...not by pigments or dyes...but by the natural spectral colors.
That is what I know. I want to know more. So here are some questions to you, the APUG community:
What is panchromatic emulsion and how thin is thin?
The plate holder explained above, how does one believe it was designed.
It was stated the emulsion was in contact with Mercury. Is the mecury separated from the emulsion by a pane of glass (that would allow you to photograph horizontally). If so, would a glass or plexiglass casing prevent or slow down light as it passes through, enough to thwart the process from working?
Any links about b/w developing chemistry would be great.
Again, please realize I am here on a novice level trying to weave through all of your minds to learn something. I am twenty four years old, own/operate a fine arts printing business, and use digital photography for many reasons from fine art work capture to model work to personal fine arts. I consider myself a professional and I want to learn more about the processes of yesteryear. Any links, books (reading material), words of advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks to all who can assist.