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Also, if you google: linos rodagon pdf

The promoted first link shows an old PDF with the rodenstock stylized R and lense with the Rodenstock stamp. This may be intentional to overcome the limitation mentioned by Bob...

They own a company named Rodenstock Photo but they cannot use the stamp on the products...

Still they are presently using the Rodenstock and the "R" in their corporate web site:

https://www.excelitas.com/product-category/rodenstock-photo

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Perhaps the law would allow them to stamp the company name "Rodenstock Photo" on the products,

https://www.rodenstock-photo.com/ website also uses Rodenstock and the "R", but has "Photo Optics" under:

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While the eyewear section has no specification under:

https://www.rodenstock.com/com/en/index.html
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So it looks they can use the corporate name/logo but they cannot stamp the products, from what Bob Salomon explained...
 

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B&H still lists it as Rodenstock, but they hide the Linos stamp :smile:

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Also Machine Vision gear retailers also show Rodagon product name but they also hide the brand stamp...

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The use of the Rodenstock name does not effect retailers. You might click on the button on the bottom of their listing to inform them of their error. But since most people would search for “Rodenstock” rather then “Linos” or Qioptik or Excillitis you would not be doing buyers, the retailer or the factory any favors.
 

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The use of the Rodenstock name does not effect retailers. You might click on the button on the bottom of their listing to inform them of their error. But since most people would search for “Rodenstock” rather then “Linos” or Qioptik or Excillitis you would not be doing buyers, the retailer or the factory any favors.

Possibly Dr Rodenstock (Randolf Rodenstock ?) did not want his "R" on products he could not control the quality... still he allowed the new owners to use the Brand and the "R" in their corporate image, it may look strange, but sure it is a good compromise. Anyway he sold that business section in the right moment, pointing that beyond technique (physics) he was a true (INSEAD) businessman. It had to be a privilege dealing with that corporation.
 

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No, standard business practice. You sell your business and you include roayalty free use of your trademark for a given period then you charge for it. Otherwise you would never sell the company for the price the seller wants.

as to quality, the lenses and other products continued for several years to be made in the same buildings by the same technicians. When they opened the new factory those machines and technicians moved to it.
 
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