Leica R with Lens for $20 at Goodwill

JW PHOTO · May 2, 2015

I've owned the original Leicaflex MKI, SL, R3 and R4 MOT. They were all good, but I only have the SL left since I really like the way it handled and its ability to run without power. I'd take an SL2 also, but the SL is good enough. The Leicaflex, SL and SL2 are true Leica cameras and not a mix of Minolta/Leica. John W

John Koehrer · May 3, 2015

Rick A said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-hrabe/the-worst-corporation-in-_b_1876905.html

Apparently is is, Rick.
Gee, if the world were a perfect place salaries would be equitable. No multi million buck salaries + bonus and no minimum wage payroll.
ANYWHERE!

I know that's gonna happen!

OH WAIT! I could make ends meet at $70k/yr...............http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/b...ing-a-new-minimum-wage-70000-a-year.html?_r=0

How much would you like to bet that other execs are gonna take his lead? I'm thinkin' you could count them on less than one finger.

BrianShaw · May 3, 2015

Theo Sulphate · May 3, 2015

John Koehrer said:
Apparently is is, Rick.
Gee, if the world were a perfect place salaries would be equitable. No multi million buck salaries + bonus and no minimum wage payroll.
ANYWHERE!

I know that's gonna happen!

OH WAIT! I could make ends meet at $70k/yr...............http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/b...ing-a-new-minimum-wage-70000-a-year.html?_r=0

How much would you like to bet that other execs are gonna take his lead? I'm thinkin' you could count them on less than one finger.

Oh, indeed, I want to see as many businesses as possible adopt this $15/hour or $70000/year concept. Why? Because if I tried to explain how economically and socially stupid this is, you would simply reject what I have to say and call me a heartless bastard. So, what has to happen is we adopt this and, when it fails miserably 10 years from now, you'll understand. All we will have done is raise the bar for the "poverty" level and lower the incentive to become more skilled.

Why even stop there? Give everyone a new house, nice car, iPhone, etc., just for being born. You want it, you got it. Isn't that where this is headed anyway: not equality of opportunity, but equality of outcome. Minimum wage was intended only to get skills and experience on the path to getting a better job. If too many people today are trying to support a family, own a car, pay for an apartment solely on minimum wage, that's not a problem with the wage - that's a problem with them trying to do too much with too few job skills. I have been there and skimped by with nothing until I could get a better job.

One thing I'll agree to is that we need to bring back trade schools. Another thing that would help is if our politicians actually had owned and operated a successful small or medium sized business.

Already, a woman is complaining that at $15/hour, at Walmart, she can't support her four kids, make car payments, and rent. The path to improvement for her really isn't high minimum wages for everybody, because she'll eventually be back in the same situation. She needs the opportunity to get more skills for a better job.

Also, if a business is going to need to hire someone to sweep the floors and clean, and they have to pay at $15/hr for this, they're not going to hire the zero-experience 16 year-old who isn't likely to stay past summer vacation - they'll hire a more experienced person who has the potential to take on more responsibilities and will stay longer. Or - more likely - they'll hire nobody and just spread that task out among the current staff. So, the youngest, least experienced lose out.

All who like this "living wage" concept should adopt it and live long enough to suffer the consequences.

BrianShaw said:
Yup

Old-N-Feeble · May 3, 2015

Nah... let's just bring back slavery.

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

Old-N-Feeble said:
Nah... let's just bring back slavery.

Google "Slavery today", it was never gone.

MartinCrabtree · May 4, 2015

The derailment is complete.

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

MartinCrabtree said:
The derailment is complete.

Let's run with it!

BrianShaw · May 4, 2015

No, not quite. Slavery is only part 1 of derailment. Waiting for someone to bring up old Adolph.

Dali · May 4, 2015

I like to read the social darwinism BS. It means that evolution has still some leeway...

Old-N-Feeble · May 4, 2015

BrianShaw said:
No, not quite. Slavery is only part 1 of derailment. Waiting for someone to bring up old Adolph.

Adolph

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

Old-N-Feeble said:
Adolph

Great. NOW you did it.

BrianShaw · May 4, 2015

Thank you. derailment is now complete.

THREAD CLOSED.

MartinCrabtree · May 4, 2015

In before the lock.

pdeeh · May 4, 2015

I like cheese, but only sheep and goat cheese. Cow's milk cheese upsets my digestion

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

MartinCrabtree said:
In before the lock.

Hey!

BrianShaw · May 4, 2015

pdeeh said:
I like cheese, but only sheep and goat cheese. Cow's milk cheese upsets my digestion

What about buffalo milk cheese? Can you tolerate that?

pdeeh · May 4, 2015

Never tried.
The consequences should it not agree with me are too distressing to contemplate.
Unless someone is particularly keen to have their toilet redecorated

BrianShaw · May 4, 2015

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

pdeeh said:
Never tried.
The consequences should it not agree with me are too distressing to contemplate.
Unless someone is particularly keen to have their toilet redecorated

My issue with buffalo milk cheese is that someone had to milk a buffalo to get it. That's just too creepy for me for some reason. I mean, how to keep all that buffalo hair out of the milk?

BrianShaw · May 4, 2015

ummm... buffalo, not bison (although I must admit to never having seen first-hand a bison udder so maybe they are as hairless as a buffalo udder).

RobC · May 4, 2015

Richard Sintchak (rich815) said:
My issue with buffalo milk cheese is that someone had to milk a buffalo to get it. That's just too creepy for me for some reason. I mean, how to keep all that buffalo hair out of the milk?

You don't eat pizza ?

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

BrianShaw said:
ummm... buffalo, not bison (although I must admit to never having seen first-hand a bison udder so maybe they are as hairless as a buffalo udder).

I know. But in my mind I picture big hairy bisons when I think buffalo.

Richard S. (rich815) · May 4, 2015

RobC said:
You don't eat pizza ?

Yes, I was joking. Love fresh buffalo milk balls in water. Soft, creamy. Delicious stuff.

lxdude · May 4, 2015

I got buffalo balls in milk from Adolph at Goodwill for 20 cents! Score!!
But now he's looking for me with a .50 BMFG...

Leica R with Lens for $20 at Goodwill

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