Now we are talking!I am the OP for this thread. Thank you for all comments. I had NO real information on an MP. I spoke with a "Leica" user and he suggested an MP. After everyone's kind comments, it seems that there are better buys than an MP. What is the best "BUY" in a used Leica, and which lens or lenses would you recommend? I have no problem buying used. Also anything I buy used, will go to a Leica person, for a CLA. Like a Hasselblad, it is a mechanical system and needs maintenance. The camera will be used for fun, not professionally. I do sell some of my work, but do not see it as that use.
I'd say anything past an M6 TTL is a gamble. The Leica past 2000 is a company that has put out product after product that have failed or had a flaw again and again. The M7's shutter fails frequently, M8 had IR problems, the M9 (& Monochrome, and M9-P, and M-E) have a sensor that degrades all on it's own w/o user input
My M240 used full time professionally has been faultless, same with the 35mm 1.4 FLE I own and use. So lets not get carried away with hyperbole, shall we?
I think the M240 has been a huge success, and is a great camera, and I think equally well of the 35 FLE. I mentioned neither one of those items in my post actually. But the problems I DID list are not hyperbole, but in fact real issues that Leica users have had to deal with. Are you telling me that the M8 didn't have an IR problem? The FF CCD they used in many models didn't corrode? The AF motor on S lenses isn't known for failure? And M7s don't have a reputation for shutter issues? These things are well known. I have had only great experiences with my Nikon equipment but that doesn't mean I go around saying D600s weren't fatally flawed by their sensor dust issue. You can stick your head in the sand all you want, but personally I just want Leica to deliver on the promise of their price tag.
+1 for all three,Just to add; when you buy your used Leica M camera, the "go to" service folks are:
Don Goldberg
Sherry Krauter
Youxin Ye
I've used Sherry and Don and both are excellent and reliable. I've heard really good things about Youxin Ye also.
I never said it wasn't the most expensive, just that spreading 1000.00 over 40 years isn't a big deal, that's all. Sure...spreading $250.00 over 40 years is better, but that's not what I said or meant.As to the comment that Leica is not expensive due to the fact that they last so long.... Well a Nikon FM2N lasts just as long, requires fewer CLAs to keep the shutter speeds accurate (and will give you 1/4000th of a second), and costs significantly less. By any metric Leica makes the most expensive 35mm format cameras on the market and arguing otherwise is ludicrous.
+1 for all three,
My choice is Youxin Ye. Buy your camera and lens from him, it will come CLAed.
Now we are talking!.
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4. M6, M7. Not so new M6 (TTL) (chrome feels like plastic) and M7 with aperture priority mode (only one film M made like this, if I'm not mistaken). Again, "strange" batteries.
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Sorry Ko.Fe., what do mean "strange" batteries?
Hard to find. But apparently here is DIY from most common ones.
http://lavidaleica.com/content/overview-m-system#battery
I never bought an M7 because mechanical film Leicas are the only ones worth getting in my opinion.
This is not DIY. Both my M6 & MP manuals discuss the use of either 2 silver oxides or a single lithium (CR 1/3 N).Hard to find. But apparently here is DIY from most common ones.
http://lavidaleica.com/content/overview-m-system#battery
Hi All,
Thanks for all the help so far.
#1 I have decided on an M6 non TTL. Please advise which one to recommend?
#2 Will purchase a 35MM lens. Again your recommendations?
Thank you
Mostly boats, beach, some street, landscape. 90% B&W - Acros 100, 10% or less Color Ektar 100.These are the only two films I shoot. NO digital. Budget open, but I am a shooter not a collector. The camera will be used not saved in a cabinet.#1 Titanium.
#2 Lux Ashperical.
Google to see, if you like it.
If not, get working M6 and tell us about the usage of lens and with which film, plus, rendering preferences and budget.
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