Leica lllc film counter loose; easy fix?

weasel · Nov 28, 2022

I have a Leica lllc that works wonderfully, except the film counter dial is very loose. It counts the shots just fine, but has so little resistance that the slighest bump on it changes the count.
Is this a simple fix that I could do?

Louis Nargi · Nov 28, 2022

Send it to D.A.G.Camera Repair 2128 Vintage Dr. Oregon WI 53575 608-835-3342

awty · Nov 28, 2022

Maybe you can fix it, shows you around the 19 minute mark how to get it off.

Sirius Glass · Nov 28, 2022

awty said:
Maybe you can fix it, shows you around the 19 minute mark how to get it off.

The OP needs it tightened and to stay on.

awty · Nov 28, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
The OP needs it tightened and to stay on.

The OP can watch the video and decide for himself if he wants to tackle the problem.
I would of already taken the winder off cleaned it an reinstated by now.

Sirius Glass · Nov 28, 2022

awty said:
The OP can watch the video and decide for himself if he wants to tackle the problem.
I would of already taken the winder off cleaned it an reinstated by now.

Not everyone have your skills or tools.

awty · Nov 28, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
Not everyone have your skills or tools.

I think most people can determine if they can do the job themselves or not once they see how it is done, that's why I linked in the video. If that looks daunting then don't do it. There's no pressure, I have a box full of cameras I wasn't able to fix or waiting till I'm feeling more competent.
I enjoy fixing things and doing DIY projects and like to encourage others to do the same.

weasel · Nov 29, 2022

awty said:
I think most people can determine if they can do the job themselves or not once they see how it is done, that's why I linked in the video. If that looks daunting then don't do it. There's no pressure, I have a box full of cameras I wasn't able to fix or waiting till I'm feeling more competent.
I enjoy fixing things and doing DIY projects and like to encourage others to do the same.

Thanks for the video link; looks like a very simple mechanism. It would appear that the wavy spring washer is what provides the resistance to the dial.
I wonder where I could source a new one? It would be nice to have one on hand before messing with it.

weasel · Nov 29, 2022

Fixed. If anyone else ever runs into this, the wavy spring washer does nothing for the film counter. The film counter dial has a bearing, with geared teeth on the inside that mesh with the gears from the winding shaft, On the underside, if you look closely, you will see a little metal tab. This is what controls the amount of tension on the bearing, A very slight tweak of this tab tightened it all up nicely.
Thank you everyone for your replies.

Sirius Glass · Nov 29, 2022

weasel said:
Fixed. If anyone else ever runs into this, the wavy spring washer does nothing for the film counter. The film counter dial has a bearing, with geared teeth on the inside that mesh with the gears from the winding shaft, On the underside, if you look closely, you will see a little metal tab. This is what controls the amount of tension on the bearing, A very slight tweak of this tab tightened it all up nicely.
Thank you everyone for your replies.

Congratulations for getting your money's worth from Photrio.

awty · Nov 29, 2022

weasel said:
Fixed. If anyone else ever runs into this, the wavy spring washer does nothing for the film counter. The film counter dial has a bearing, with geared teeth on the inside that mesh with the gears from the winding shaft, On the underside, if you look closely, you will see a little metal tab. This is what controls the amount of tension on the bearing, A very slight tweak of this tab tightened it all up nicely.
Thank you everyone for your replies.

Easy Peasy, great work.

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