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It will be 100€ cheaper than 50mm ASPH.
Anyone interested
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Anyone interested

It will be 100€ cheaper than 50mm ASPH.
Anyone interested?
Not interested. I have about ten 35mm lenses already.
I decided a while ago that photographers today don’t take “better” pictures than they did 50 years ago, so I’ll stick with my old optical relics and save the $7500.
+1A very good point indeed!
I use my zooms like primes. But, doesn't everybody. The 'zoom' effect is a little cliche.what u got?
Do ASPH and/or APO lenses even make sense for film shooters?
Cheaper than the 50 Asph Summilux?
Or cheaper than the 50mm Apo f2?
Do ASPH and/or APO lenses even make sense for film shooters?
The design progress in lens design of the last 30 years is by far one of the best things that happened to film photographers.
1. The resolution of digital sensors is limited by the Nyquist frequency, but film is not. The Nyquist frequency is a physical limit which cannot be surpassed in digital photography. For example the Nyquist frequency of a 36 MP 24x36mm sensor is 102 lp/mm. The Nyquist frequency of a 45 MP 24x36mm sensor is 115 lp/mm.
In reality the real resolution of a lens+sensor combination is mostly 5 - 20% lower than the Nyquist frequency, dependent on camera software and whether an AA filter is used or not.
So even with the best lenses you cannot surpass the Nyquist frequency!!
But there are several high-quality films which offer higher resolutions than 100 lp/mm and 115 lp/mm at lower medium to higher medium and high object contrast details. And with the modern lens designs you can fully use / exploit these excellent high resolution values!
Just to list the most important of them: ADOX CMS 20 II, ADOX HR-50 and SCALA 50, TMX, Delta 100, Acros 100 I/II, Agfa Aviphot Pan 80, Velvia 50, Velvia 100, Provia 100F, Provia 400X, Fujicolor C200, Superia X-Tra 400, Portra 160, E100.
2. One of the major and most significant advantage and improvement with the latest, modern lens designs is the much improved performance at open aperture and at 1-2 stopped down aperture. And the progress made in this area is really huge and easily visible.
Most of these modern and improved lenses can be used without any problems at open aperture, with already very good sharpness and contrast. Stopped down only one stop the performance is even better with "very little more to wish for". And with an only two stops down aperture you often already have a perfect performance (lots of the new lenses are only diffraction limited).
And all that means in real shooting conditions:
Because of these much better performance at wider opened apertures you can now use a better, lower-speed film instead of a higher speed film. You can often use ISO 25/15° or 50/18° instead of ISO 100/21°.
Or instead of using ISO 400/27° you can go down to ISO 100/21° and can benefit from the much better detail rendition of the lower-speed films.
The design progress in lens design of the last 30 years is by far one of the best things that happened to film photographers.
Best regards,
Henning
It will be 100€ cheaper than 50mm ASPH.
Anyone interested?
It is the best thing happening for brands to encourage photographers to buy new gear. It might be an optical engineer's praradise but I don't think it translate in better photography (unless we limit photography to brick walls and USAF charts)..
@Henning Serger @Lachlan Young thank you, gentlemen. You're not making it easy for me to fight off GAS, but it's nice to know there's room for (technical) improvement. It is somewhat easier with a rangefinder though, as I lack the patience for nailing focus at apertures bigger than f/2.8 so I'll be happy with my Summarit f/2.5 for a while.
To clarify: the APO line enables ASPH performance in a more compact package with less distortion? I've seen wide open shots from Leica's ASPH lenses and having a hard time wishing for more.
Isn't Pan F plus (50) pretty high as well?
As we marvel at their technical abilities, some of us can't help but to be disappointed by their rather sterile renditions.
Yes, but I still largely prefer the look of my (now ancient h.c. auto) Nikkor 50mm F2 at its optimal apertures over all others, and my Nikkor 28mm F3.5 Ai performs surprisingly well wide open on film, while providing a warm and natural looking rendition.
Are there any modern lenses that actually render pleasant images?
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