Legacypro Liquid Paper Developer's shelf life.....forever?

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Just read the label on this new developer that arrived today, and I saw that the shelf life is supposed to be "indefinite". Upon further reading, I see this applies not to the bottle, but to the stoppered, diluted working solution of 1:9. The tray life is also supposed to be one working day. Wow. Sounds a lot different than my Dektol.

 

[Paul Howell]

Sounds too good to be true.

 

[pentaxuser]

Without wishing to suggest that you may have misinterpreted what the wording says, can you give us the actual quote on the LegacyPro leaflet?

I have to agree with Paul It does sound too good to be true if it is stated exactly as your reading of it.

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Paul Howell]

Legacy pro is a clone of Kodak PolyMax t, this is what the Kodak Data sheet says. Developer once opened has a life of 2 months, 1 day in tray, fixer is indefinite.


TECHNICAL DATA / CHEMICALS February 2003 • J-5 KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Developer and KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Fixer KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Developer and KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Fixer are liquid concentrates designed for tray processing of black-and-white photographic papers. KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Developer produces neutral or cold tones with cold-tone papers. It is supplied as an easy-to-use liquid that dilutes 1 part concentrate with 9 parts water at 70 to 80°F (21 to 27°C). KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Fixer is a single-solution, liquid-concentrate, hardening fixer. It is for use with POLYMAX T Developer as well as other developers. Dilute 1 part concentrate with 7 parts water. POLYMAX T Fixer is also for use with tank or tray processing of film; dilute 1 part concentrate with 3 parts water. SIZES AVAILABLE FEATURES BENEFITS •Liquid concentrate •Easy mixing •High capacity •Up to 120 8 x 10-inch prints per gallon •Good keeping characteristics •Indefinite storage of unopened concentrates •Good storage characteristics for concentrate after opening •Versatile •Can be used with both fiber and resin-coated papers CAT No. Description KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Developer 864 8834 liquid—1-gallon cube 138 8354 liquid—1-quart bottle KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T Fixer 853 6625 liquid—1-gallon cube STORAGE LIFE AND CAPACITY Most properly stored photographic solutions in the original sealed packages will remain in good condition for a long time. Storage temperatures are important—65 to 70°F (18 to 21°C) is a good range. At higher temperatures, the times are proportionately shorter. KODAK PROFESSIONAL PAPERS TRAY PROCESSED IN KODAK PROFESSIONAL POLYMAX T CHEMICALS Fiber-Base Papers •AZO •POLYMAX Fine-Art Resin-Coated Papers •KODABROME II RC •P-MAX Art RC •PANALURE SELECT RC •POLYCONTRAST III RC •POLYMAX II RC KODAK PROFESSIONAL Chemical Keeping Properties Without Use Useful Capacity 8 x 10 Sheets Per Gal/L in a Tray (Dilution) Concentrate in Closed Container Working Solution in Tray Full Half Full POLYMAX T Developer Indefinite* * Concentrate in original sealed package. 2 months† †Air will affect a chemical once it has been opened. The less contact the chemical has with air, the longer it will keep. Actual life of the chemical will depend on your darkroom conditions. 1 working day 120/32 (1:9) POLYMAX T Fixer Indefinite* 2 months† 1 week 100/26 (1:7)

 

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Sure, I can do that pentaxuser. It says,

"Dilute: 1:9 (of course, they mean 1+9, but everyone seems to do it this way). For Use In: Tray. Solution temp: 68f, RC 3/4 to 3 min, FB 3/4 to 4 min. Shelf Life :diluted solution/closed container: indefinite. Shelf Life: working solution in tray: 1 working day. Capacity: 8x10 sheets per gallon/ltr in tray: 100/26."

 

[Paul Howell]

If its a Polymax clone I think Freestyle got it wrong. Between the 2, Kodak and Freestyle I would error on the side of Kodak. The 2 months for an opened bottle can be extended by using air suction device used to keep wine fresher longer or a collapsible plastic bottle.

 

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I read somewhere that while this is a clone of Polymax t as Paul mentioned, Polymax is also a clone of Ektaflo liquid developer. FWIW, the Legacypro developer prints look identical to prints I developed in Dektol. The brown residue in the tray afterward is even the same.
Could Polymax be essentially a liquid version of Dektol?

 

[MattKing]

Could Polymax be essentially a liquid version of Dektol?

In Europe, it used to be sold as Liquid Dektol .
It has been my favorite print developer for years.
Unfortunately, I don't think that Polymax T is being sold anymore in individual user, non-commercial lab quantities.
Same with T-Max RS developer.

 

[markjwyatt]

My Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find my Legacy Pro Paper Developer is still good

In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, develop
will develop with my Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, will need your eyes
To see the prints I developed
in my still good my Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
But, my Legacy Pro Paper Developer is still good

In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From prints developed in my Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 7510
If God's a coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Nice prints made in my Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or marvel at the potency of my Legacy Pro Paper Developer

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if my Legacy Pro Paper Developer is gonna be alive
I had to increase development time by 10% to reach gamma of 0.8
For the first time ever

 

[Tim Stapp]

Can you put this to music for the enjoyment of everyone?

 

[markjwyatt]

Can you put this to music for the enjoyment of everyone?

Couldn't get 'em to sing the Legacy Pro version, but this is as close as it gets...

 

[Danner]

Doesn't mean "forever"...

indefinite | ˌinˈdef(ə)nət | adjectivelasting for an unknown or unstated length of time: they may face indefinite detention. • not clearly expressed or defined; vague: their status remains indefinite.

 

[markjwyatt]

Doesn't mean "forever"...

indefinite | ˌinˈdef(ə)nət | adjectivelasting for an unknown or unstated length of time: they may face indefinite detention. • not clearly expressed or defined; vague: their status remains indefinite.

Implies a long time (longer than the purchaser could wait maybe), but could mean "until it stops working"