Kodak Tri-x Price Drops

Ko.Fe. · Jun 24, 2014

Price drop? On previous Thursday I purchased single roll of Tri-X. From Henry's store, $10
Last one, for me.

Xmas · Jun 24, 2014

Roger Cole said:
Controlled Crystal Growth. But essentially yes, Delta 400 is a "new tech" film closest to TMY and HP5+ is more comparable to Tri-X. Delta 400 is not as fine grained as TMY but finer than Tri-X or HP5+. Like other "new style" films it's responsive to development and may take more dialing in but it's a nice film. You'll provably like it.

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Hi Roger

So you get the grain in TMY finer than Delta after you have shot both?

I'll be trying some if you say yes...

I like grain for the gritty street shots but some days...

Noel

Tom Kershaw · Jun 24, 2014

I'm not Roger but having used TMY-2 and Delta 400 I would suspect the Kodak film does have finer grain, processed in XTOL.

Tom

Xmas · Jun 24, 2014

Tom Kershaw said:
I'm not Roger but having used TMY-2 and Delta 400 I would suspect the Kodak film does have finer grain, processed in XTOL.

Tom

Hi Tom

Thanks I'll try some next week then. I use HP5+ with microphen or Rodinal for soft toe.

But I sometimes I have light to spare...

This Sunday used a PanF cassette @ midday with large white fluffy reflectors in sky 125@/5.6

Neopan 400 did not seem much different from Delta BTW.

Most of my images are 'gritty' anyway.

Dr Croubie · Jun 24, 2014

I've just been looking at some of my shots, TX vs TMY both in Xtol scanned at 3200dpi, I'm having trouble seeing the differences in grain sizes there.
If you can see the difference between Delta 400 and TMY then you must be scanning/enlarging absolutely huge or have a lot better trained eyes than me...

Roger Cole · Jun 24, 2014

It's been many many years since I shot Delta 400 but I did and I could see a difference mainly under the enlarger with a grain magnifier. Not a lot but visible. It would be really hard to see a difference in grain in most prints, granted.

Neither is the film for you if you want more and visible grain. For that I might go to Foma 400. You'll see a difference there.

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Xmas · Jun 24, 2014

HiRoger

Ok Thanks

I do use Forma 400 for grain - If you like grain it is 'nicer' than Kentmere 400 or Hp5+.

But for some shots I want less and use Delta400, Neopan400 or Delta100.

I'll try a cassette of the Kodak and the grain focus tools.

Noel

Arctic amateur · Jun 24, 2014

A random google search took me to this article, which discusses resolution and grain size of Kodak films at great length, and complains about people and film makers confusing grain with particle size. (They argue that grain is apparent clumping of particles, and grains are much larger than particles.)
http://cool.conservation-us.org/coo...itale/2007-04-vitale-filmgrain_resolution.pdf

StoneNYC · Jun 25, 2014

I can see that, ^^ especially considering Eastman Double-X, it's a great film, but it's claimed to have good resolution or grains per line or whatever the calculation is, but in reality it "appears" fairly grainy (though gives beautiful tones) that always confused me until you said clumping of grains, so perhaps that's what's being confused. Thanks!

markaudacity · Jun 27, 2014

Ko.Fe. said:
Price drop? On previous Thursday I purchased single roll of Tri-X. From Henry's store, $10
Last one, for me.

You'll always pay an outrageous markup buying film in a brick-and-mortar these days.

MattKing · Jun 27, 2014

MattKing said:
My local sources, who would have to order to either to sell me a 100 foot Tri-X roll, or replace the one or two in their system, tell me that their recently revised current price from their source (the intervening distributor(s)) requires them to now charge me about $140.00 CDN.

They could sell me a 100 roll of T-Max 100 or 400 for about $100.00 Canadian.

I can get a 100 foot roll of T-Max 400 from Amazon Canada for about $100.00 Canadian - if I am willing to wait a month.

And now I can get a a 100 foot roll of Tri-x 400 from Amazon Canada for about $71.00 Canadian + tax: http://www.amazon.ca/Kodak-106-7214...r_1_29?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1403900260&sr=1-29

And a 100 foot roll of T-Max 400 from Amazon Canada for about $74.00 Canadian + tax: http://www.amazon.ca/Kodak-158-7716...r_1_13?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1403913497&sr=1-13

All of which is to say that there are a lot of strange factors at work.

cmacd123 · Jun 28, 2014

better grab it, they show two rolls left, and all the other vendors if you click through are wanting well over CDN$100

kchoquette · Jul 1, 2014

I'm not exactly sure what's going on, but Tri-X 36 Exp. per roll is going for $4.99 on B&H now, which is getting to be slightly ridiculous. I'm glad I have at least ten or fifteen rolls left in my fridge, but still, this is getting worrisome.

Dr Croubie · Jul 1, 2014

kchoquette said:
I'm not exactly sure what's going on, but Tri-X 36 Exp. per roll is going for $4.99 on B&H now, which is getting to be slightly ridiculous. I'm glad I have at least ten or fifteen rolls left in my fridge, but still, this is getting worrisome.

Still, it's only 4c more than TMY and 24c more than HP5, the only thing cheaper is Kentmere.
APX/RPX/Delta400 are all more than $6.
HP5/Delta400 are still waay cheaper in 100' compared to TMY/TX, probably has something to do with shipping weight of all the canisters compared to bulk rolls. Still not sure why Kodak's 100' are so much worse than their singles though, maybe they're stuck in their 90s mentality of "we're so good and well-loved that people will pay it"...

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