Kodak Tri-x Price Drops

Sal Santamaura · Jun 11, 2014

Roger Cole said:
I was referring to the mid 90s when I bought it...But you may be talking about a later period?

I was referring to approximately 2003/2004, not the mid 90s. Ilford was selling master rolls to a number of "confectioners" just before it went bankrupt.

blaine.minazzi · Jun 12, 2014

I remember the "cheep prices" too. But I also remember the wages. I have a (empty) 50 sheet box of Kodak Vericolor II type L, expire date 12/83 with a price tag of 49.92. Thats a buck a sheet. Take the 1983 prices, adjust for the Federal Reserve tomfoolery and Film is still about the same price today in relative terms. Shoot more and be happy!

Roger Cole · Jun 12, 2014

Sal Santamaura said:
I was referring to approximately 2003/2004, not the mid 90s. Ilford was selling master rolls to a number of "confectioners" just before it went bankrupt.

Well yeah I can agree with that then. But I bought bulk 100' rolls of Ilford branded as Arista (or Freestyle or something, would have to check and it's in TN if I didn't throw it out) in the 90s for way less than the Ilford branded stuff would have cost.

Tom1956 · Jun 12, 2014

blaine.minazzi said:
I remember the "cheep prices" too. But I also remember the wages. I have a (empty) 50 sheet box of Kodak Vericolor II type L, expire date 12/83 with a price tag of 49.92. Thats a buck a sheet. Take the 1983 prices, adjust for the Federal Reserve tomfoolery and Film is still about the same price today in relative terms. Shoot more and be happy!

Where's the "thumbs up" smiley on this thing?

madgardener · Jun 12, 2014

Speaking of bulk rolls, the college bookstore where I am taking night classes has long expired bulk rolls of HP5+ for $20. I have several I bought in my deep freeze. Last I checked they still had 10-12 boxes.

shashinzukuri · Jun 12, 2014

Nikanon said:
Today on BH photo the price of Tri-x is down to $4.35 a roll from the recent increase to $4.79. Hopefully it's not just a short trend.. It makes the difference buying 60+ rolls at a time.

Looks like it was a very short trend. It's $4.99 today.

Nikanon · Jun 12, 2014

pbromaghin said:
Now in stock:

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/192244-Arista-Premium-400-ISO-35mm-x-24-exp.

You could have got those 100 rolls for $2.59

24 exposures is an extreme hassle for me. Once the 36 exposure went, I did try the 24 exposure arista premium, but I was done film way too early, reloading all the time, and it would give 1.5 as many rolls of film to process and handle. Sure that wouldve been a bit cheaper, but shooting at the rate I am, I dont need any more film piling up.

I figure that at the end of the year I'll have around 700 rolls shot, in 24 exposures that would be over 1,000. Its worth it to just have them in one place as much as possible.

Nikanon · Jun 12, 2014

shashinzukuri said:
Looks like it was a very short trend. It's $4.99 today.

Yeah I saw that, I called BH and the guy in the film department was very kind, but wasn't in on anything about the pricing. I wonder whats going on. It was bad enough at 4.79, I will definitely switch to Hp5 for 4.99.

Roger Cole · Jun 12, 2014

Interesting how differently different people work. I find 24 exposures much better than 36 because 36 is inconveniently long. I often shoot part of a 36 roll and then don't finish it for weeks, sometimes months, when I next need that type of film. Having several bodies with different types of film in each adds to this too, otherwise I'd be doing mid-roll changes.

Xmas · Jun 12, 2014

Nikanon said:
Yeah I saw that, I called BH and the guy in the film department was very kind, but wasn't in on anything about the pricing. I wonder whats going on. It was bad enough at 4.79, I will definitely switch to Hp5 for 4.99.

Well Kentmere400 is also a Harman film with a similar toe and should be cheaper than HP5+.

Or bulk or 400 foot of cine 5222 cheaper still.

Jaf-Photo · Jun 12, 2014

Well, everything is relative. Tri-X 135 36 is $8 in my local store and $6 from the best online store.

HP5 is exactly the same.

mwdake · Jun 12, 2014

I remember when you could by Kodak films and chemicals at the local Kmart store.

I remember when you could buy rolls of Ilford Film from a vending machine outside the drug store.

mwdake · Jun 12, 2014

there is first a fuel levy

2.19 GBP per USG then

20% sales on the total

tad more then 20% overall

When VAt came about in the UK wasn't it supposed to replace the old excise tax?
It seems they applied the VAT to gas without removing the excise tax first; so it was taxed twice.

Xmas · Jun 12, 2014

the precursor to VAT was purchase tax the fuel levy independent of either

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocarbon_oil_duty

Roger Cole · Jun 12, 2014

Taxes add up too. Higher taxes on everyone from crude oil up the chain get passed along so just looking at retail taxes of the final product doesn't show the while story.

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mwdake · Jun 12, 2014

the precursor to VAT was purchase tax

That's what I meant, I forgot the proper name.

StoneNYC · Jun 12, 2014

Nikanon said:
I don't get it, why would you try to make three totally different formats look similar when they are already so different anyway?

Most likey developing all of those different films separately is a pain when you can develop them all together if it's the same film.

StoneNYC · Jun 12, 2014

Roger Cole said:
Interesting how differently different people work. I find 24 exposures much better than 36 because 36 is inconveniently long. I often shoot part of a 36 roll and then don't finish it for weeks, sometimes months, when I next need that type of film. Having several bodies with different types of film in each adds to this too, otherwise I'd be doing mid-roll changes.

It's funny, I never used to understand this a few years back, but as I started to shoot large-format, my shooting habits have changed, now I find it difficult to get through a 10 frame role of 120, I think a 35mm role for me would be best at 12 frames, maybe 16? I think I'll be bulk loading very soon, I just wish they came in 200' instead of 100' since all of my bulk loaders are 200' loaders lol!

RattyMouse · Jun 12, 2014

Roger Cole said:
Taxes add up too. Higher taxes on everyone from crude oil up the chain get passed along so just looking at retail taxes of the final product doesn't show the while story.

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Yep. Taxes get passed on. That's why I find it funny when people demand higher corporate income taxes. Who pays this tax? Why the people who buy their products do.

I didnt learn this until I became a landlord. What happens when my property taxes are raised (which they always are)? The rent goes up by an equal amount. My tenants have always paid my property taxes.

Xmas · Jun 13, 2014

StoneNYC said:
It's funny, I never used to understand this a few years back, but as I started to shoot large-format, my shooting habits have changed, now I find it difficult to get through a 10 frame role of 120, I think a 35mm role for me would be best at 12 frames, maybe 16? I think I'll be bulk loading very soon, I just wish they came in 200' instead of 100' since all of my bulk loaders are 200' loaders lol!

you could buy a can of 5222 or get a short end from one of your movie photog chums.

fotch · Jun 13, 2014

StoneNYC said:
It's funny, I never used to understand this a few years back, but as I started to shoot large-format, my shooting habits have changed, now I find it difficult to get through a 10 frame role of 120, I think a 35mm role for me would be best at 12 frames, maybe 16? I think I'll be bulk loading very soon, I just wish they came in 200' instead of 100' since all of my bulk loaders are 200' loaders lol!

Where do you get these? The 100ft loaders are very common & widely available.

Ulrich Drolshagen · Jun 13, 2014

RattyMouse said:
Yep. Taxes get passed on. That's why I find it funny when people demand higher corporate income taxes. Who pays this tax? Why the people who buy their products do.

I didnt learn this until I became a landlord. What happens when my property taxes are raised (which they always are)? The rent goes up by an equal amount. My tenants have always paid my property taxes.

Some taxes are costs, certain types of property taxes, consumption taxes on fuels and the like. Income taxes are paid on profits resulting from the difference between sales and costs and can therefore not be forwarded to your customers.
The idea behind high taxes on distributed profits is to motivate the share holders, in order to avoid high personal income taxes, to keep the profits inside the corporate and invest them there (and hire more workers) instead of buying useless jewelery, playing polo, finance America's Cup campaigns, drinking Champaign or whatever rich people do when they have too much money.

StoneNYC · Jun 13, 2014

Xmas said:
you could buy a can of 5222 or get a short end from one of your movie photog chums.

I'm done with 5222, after the 4x5 incident and kodak dicking everyone around combined with wanting to focus on emulations they were available in all formats, I'm just done with kodak, now I'm one of those grumpy people sick of their BS and not worth my time supporting them.

fotch said:
Where do you get these? The 100ft loaders are very common & widely available.

Alden 200

Alden is the loader brand and the model is the 200, the standard I think is the "alden35" which is for 100' rolls.

Hope that helps.

mopar_guy · Jun 13, 2014

The Alden 74 is the 100 foot model.

jpa · Jun 13, 2014

I hate to rain on the parade, but I just checked the link and the film's currently at $4.99! I was too slow, I suppose...

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