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Kodak TMZ - few years out of date - expectations and processing?

B&Wpositive

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I have a bunch of rolls of unused Kodak TMZ, some of which expired in 2015, some in 2014, some in the freezer, and some not.

When fresh, I used to expose at EI 3200 and 6400.

What sort of EI can I expect to get from it now that it's out of date?

And any special development methods or developers I should look into for this use?
 

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Just use it as you used to. Two years after expiration of a film in the fridge have no effect to its emulsion. Those out of the fridge might be gamble though. The faster the emulsion, the quicker it looses sensitivity beyond expiration dates when not cold stored.
 
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For something this high speed after just 2-3 years, I'd have thought some fogging would be noticeable if developed normally...no?
 

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In my experience, expired TMX was not worth shooting, even if it had been frozen. Expect considerable fog, increased grain, poor shadow detail.
 

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over expose it a few stops and process it in something like caffenol c with a splash of dektol or ansco 130
you might be plesantly surprised at your results. i can't speak for anyone else's experience with the film
but 10 years old in a drawer was the last exptmz i used and it came out fine.
good luck !
 

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As a rule of thumb the faster the film the poorer the keeping properties.
 

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It's not THAT expired, but expect some fogging - it usually has a bit of increased fog by the time the expiration date rolls by anyways
 

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I loved this film.